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<p>[QUOTE="rbm86, post: 9196, member: 854"]I thought it would be interesting to construct a "Grid" of grades for comparable coins for the various grading services, but concluded it would be darn near impossible. </p><p><br /></p><p>For example, look at the attached morgan graded "MS66" by PCI:</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3912985751&category=39466&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBWA%3AIT&rd=1" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3912985751&category=39466&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBWA%3AIT&rd=1" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3912985751&category=39466&sspagename=STRK:MEBWA:IT&rd=1</a></p><p><br /></p><p>On a good day, this would get MS-63 by PCGS or NGC. The few MS66 NGC or PCGS Morgans I've seen look near perfect to the naked eye. So we have a 3 point difference. The problem is, I've seen differences ranging from 2 points to 6 points between NGC/PCGS/IGC and the second tier services (PCI, SEGS, NTC, etc.)! Thus it appears the lower tier grading services are inconsistent as well as "liberal" compared with PCGS/NGC.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here's the problem: the seller claims the "trends" value is $900, which is probably what the "MS66" value is in Coin World. In MS-63, the coin might retail for $40. The market puts more credence in the PCGS/NGC grade. An inexperienced buyer might buy the coin for $80, thinking he/she has a bargain. In reality, the buyer paid double retail for the coin. Now I am not saying that this coin will realize $80 from an uninformed buyer, but you hear these stories all the time (and they are written about in books all the time).</p><p><br /></p><p>Now here is my question to the forum: why can't Coin World, CDN, Coin Prices, etc. specifiy that the values reflect, in general, PCGS/NGC/ICG grading standards? Well, one of the answers will be that the grading services have no "generally accepted" grading standards. I guess the ANA still has "official" grading standards, but they are not detailed enough, especially for mint state coins, and no grading service I am aware of states they "adhere" to ANA grading standards.</p><p><br /></p><p>Well, then my question is, will the coin profession ever adopt "generally accepted" grading standards accepted by the ANA, PNG, and the top grading services? A loaded question for sure, but it just seems that the hobby is inviting regulation if some tightened grading standards are not adopted.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="rbm86, post: 9196, member: 854"]I thought it would be interesting to construct a "Grid" of grades for comparable coins for the various grading services, but concluded it would be darn near impossible. For example, look at the attached morgan graded "MS66" by PCI: [url]http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3912985751&category=39466&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBWA%3AIT&rd=1[/url] On a good day, this would get MS-63 by PCGS or NGC. The few MS66 NGC or PCGS Morgans I've seen look near perfect to the naked eye. So we have a 3 point difference. The problem is, I've seen differences ranging from 2 points to 6 points between NGC/PCGS/IGC and the second tier services (PCI, SEGS, NTC, etc.)! Thus it appears the lower tier grading services are inconsistent as well as "liberal" compared with PCGS/NGC. Here's the problem: the seller claims the "trends" value is $900, which is probably what the "MS66" value is in Coin World. In MS-63, the coin might retail for $40. The market puts more credence in the PCGS/NGC grade. An inexperienced buyer might buy the coin for $80, thinking he/she has a bargain. In reality, the buyer paid double retail for the coin. Now I am not saying that this coin will realize $80 from an uninformed buyer, but you hear these stories all the time (and they are written about in books all the time). Now here is my question to the forum: why can't Coin World, CDN, Coin Prices, etc. specifiy that the values reflect, in general, PCGS/NGC/ICG grading standards? Well, one of the answers will be that the grading services have no "generally accepted" grading standards. I guess the ANA still has "official" grading standards, but they are not detailed enough, especially for mint state coins, and no grading service I am aware of states they "adhere" to ANA grading standards. Well, then my question is, will the coin profession ever adopt "generally accepted" grading standards accepted by the ANA, PNG, and the top grading services? A loaded question for sure, but it just seems that the hobby is inviting regulation if some tightened grading standards are not adopted.[/QUOTE]
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