[Fun] How far chronologically can we get with Roman Emperors?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Restitutor, Jun 1, 2020.

  1. Restitutor

    Restitutor Active Member

    Call it a crazy quarantine idea but I got to thinking: How far down the list could the members of CT get as it pertains to Roman Emperors?

    Rule is pretty simple: starting with Augustus, post your coin of the succeeding emperor and so on and so on, seeing how far we get before we hit a roadblock! To keep things simple I recommend we stick with legitimate emperors of Rome only, using the most reliable source as the arbiter of truth: Wikipedia :pompous:

    I would start with Augustus myself but figured I’d let someone else start as a gauge of interest! If you have a coin of Augustus, lets get this going!

    And if this has already been done or shot down before forgive me I’m a new member :eggface:
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  3. octavius

    octavius Well-Known Member

    I'm game - I'll start with a denarius of Augustus with temple reverse for #1 emperor...

  4. DonnaML

    DonnaML Supporter! Supporter

    Tiberius AR Denarius, AD 18-35, Lugdunum (Lyons) Mint, “Tribute Penny.” Obv. TI CAESAR DIVI AVG AVGVSTVS, Laureate head right/ Rev. PONTIF MAXIM, Livia, as Pax, holding long sceptre & olive branch, seated right on throne with ornate legs, single line below. RIC I 30, RSC II 16a, Sear RCV I 1763, Giard Lyon, group 4, 150. 19 m., 3.82 g. Ex: JMB collection; Ex: Tom Cederlind Sale 86 (1989), 305; Ex: Kirk Davis, Cat # 72, Fall 2018, Lot 80.

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  5. octavius

    octavius Well-Known Member

    #3 - Sestertius of Caligula. OB CIVES SERVATOS reverse.

  6. DonnaML

    DonnaML Supporter! Supporter

    @Restitutor: Since it's your game, what are the rules? Can one person post the coins of 20 emperors in a row? 10? 2? Or no more than one at a time, and they have to let someone else take a turn? If so, then how many emperors have to be posted by other people (and/or how much time has to go by without anyone posting) before the same person can post one again?

    By the way, having been here for 4 months now, I'm pretty sure that at least one person (and likely several people) among the collective membership has every single legitimate emperor, and a lot of the usurpers except for the ones of extreme rarity.

    FYI, here is a table of relative rarity of the coins of all the emperors (and empresses), including usurpers, from most to least common, compiled by @Suarez (author of ERIC and ERIC II and a member here) some years ago, although I don't know if it's the current one. I found it at https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=ERIC - Rarity Tables

    Note that the table applies only to Roman Imperial coins, not to Roman Provincial coins. For example, Roman Imperial coins of Tranqullina are very rare (# 187 on this list), but her Roman Provincial coins are pretty easy to find.

    Table 2 – Ruler Rarity (relative)

    In ascending order, approximately from most common to rarest:

    1. Constantine I
    2. Constantius II
    3. Constantine II
    4. Valens
    5. Valentinian I
    6. Constans
    7. Licinius I
    8. Probus
    9. Aurelian
    10. Valentinian II
    11. Gallienus
    12. Gratian
    13. Constantius Gallus
    14. Theodosius I
    15. Arcadius
    16. Honorius
    17. Licinius II
    18. Julian II
    19. Jovian
    20. Diocletian
    21. Crispus
    22. Claudius II
    23. Maximian
    24. Maximinus II
    25. Anastasius
    26. Tetricus I
    27. Tetricus II
    28. Salonina
    29. Tacitus
    30. Delmatius
    31. Gordian III
    32. Philip I
    33. Postumus
    34. Victorinus
    35. Philip II
    36. Galerius
    37. Helena
    38. Magnentius
    39. Decentius
    40. Vespasian
    41. Antoninus Pius
    42. Claudius
    43. Augustus
    44. Elagabalus
    45. Severus Alexander
    46. Septimius Severus
    47. Caracalla
    48. Carinus
    49. Numerian
    50. Florian
    51. Hadrian
    52. Trajan
    53. Maxentius
    54. Galeria Valeria
    55. Trajan Decius
    56. Faustina Sr.
    57. Faustina Jr.
    58. Domitian
    59. Marcus Aurelius
    60. Geta
    61. Fausta
    62. Valerian I
    63. Magnus Maximus
    64. Agrippa
    65. Germanicus
    66. Constantius I
    67. Quintillus
    68. Commodus
    69. Marcian
    70. Nerva
    71. Julia Domna
    72. Herennia Etruscilla
    73. Otacilia Severa
    74. Carus
    75. Lucius Verus
    76. Severina
    77. Julia Maesa
    78. Julia Mamaea
    79. Nero
    80. Aelia Flaccilla
    81. Caligula
    82. Julia Soaemias
    83. Volusian
    84. Leo I
    85. Valerian II
    86. Trebonianus Gallus
    87. Drusus
    88. Sabina
    89. Maximinus
    90. Tiberius
    91. Crispina
    92. Lucilla
    93. Titus
    94. Plautilla
    95. Vabalathus
    96. Theodora
    97. Eudoxia
    98. Macrinus
    99. Antonia
    100. Saloninus
    101. Carausius
    102. Severus II
    103. Procopius
    104. Herennius Etruscus
    105. Clodius Albinus
    106. Theodosius II
    107. Allectus
    108. Julia Paula
    109. Hostilian
    110. Aelius
    111. Aquilia Severa
    112. Vitellius
    113. Zeno
    114. Galba
    115. Maximus (Caesar)
    116. Quietus
    117. Macrianus
    118. Flavius Victor
    119. Diadumenian
    120. Johannes
    121. Otho
    122. Vetranio
    123. Magnia Urbica
    124. Aemilian
    125. Eugenius
    126. Hanniballianus
    127. Livia
    128. Balbinus
    129. Pupienus
    130. Agrippina II
    131. Orbiana
    132. Valentinian III
    133. Marius
    134. Pescennius Niger
    135. Mariniana
    136. Romulus
    137. Pertinax
    138. Agrippina I
    139. Basiliscus
    140. Julia Titi
    141. Julian
    142. Gordian I
    143. Gordian II
    144. Laelianus
    145. Didius Julianus
    146. Pulcheria
    147. Eudocia
    148. Verina
    149. Domitilla
    150. Nero Claudius Drusus
    151. Paulina
    152. Nigrinian
    153. Domitius Domitianus
    154. Constantine III
    155. Galla Placidia
    156. Libius Severus
    157. Didia Clara
    158. Manlia Scantilla
    159. Jovinus
    160. Anthemius
    161. Matidia
    162. Marciana
    163. Majorian
    164. Plotina
    165. Domitia
    166. Honoria
    167. Julius Nepos
    168. Pacatian
    169. Martinian
    170. Alexander
    171. Cornelia Supera
    172. Licinia Eudoxia
    173. Romulus Augustus
    174. Zenobia
    175. Jotapian
    176. Maximus
    177. Avitus
    178. Clodius Macer
    179. Nepotian
    180. Constantius III
    181. Britannicus
    182. Regalianus
    183. Priscus Attalus
    184. Uranius Antoninus
    185. Dryantilla
    186. Zenonis
    187. Tranquillina
    188. Annia Faustina
    189. Petronius Maximus
    190. Glycerius
    191. Ariadne
    192. Constans II
    193. Sebastianus
    194. Leo II
    195. Olybrius
    196. Euphemia
    197. Leontius
    198. Valerius Valens
    199. Constantia
    200. Silbannacus
    201. Domitian II
    202. Saturninus
  7. Restitutor

    Restitutor Active Member

    Great questions! I envisioned that each coin would be posted by someone new, but given rarity of certain emperors that may not be possible. So, how about each person can submit up to 5 emperors, no limit as to how many in a row. If we hit a dry spell at some point we can relax those rules in the interest of success! Haha. As such, those with emperors of higher rarity would likely hold off until they can post those coins especially!

    And thank you for the excellent info on the emperors!
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  8. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Supporter! Supporter

    While you work out the rules, here's a Claudius:

    Claudius LIBERTAS AVGVSTA as.jpg Claudius LIBERTAS AVGVSTA as Sulzer listing.JPG
  9. DonnaML

    DonnaML Supporter! Supporter

    Nero AR denarius, 64-65 AD Rome Mint. Obv. Laureate head right, NERO CAESAR AVGVSTVS / Rev. Jupiter seated left, holding thunderbolt and scepter, IVPPITER CVSTOS. RIC I 52 [old RIC I 45], RSC II 119, BMCRE 74. 18 mm., 3.1 g.

    Nero AR Denarius - IVPPITER CVSTOS jpg version.jpg

    Galba AR Denarius, Aug-Oct 68 AD Rome Mint. Obv. Bare head right, IMP SER GALBA AVG / Rev. S P Q R/ O • B/ C S [OB CS = OB CIVES SERVATOS (For Saving the Citizens)] in three lines within oak wreath. RIC I 167, RSC II 287, Sear RCV I 2109 (ill.). 18.33 mm., 3.29 g.

    Galba Denarius RIC I 167 jpg.jpg

    Somebody else is going to have to provide Otho!

    Also, I vote for letting people post coins of empresses as well in the appropriate chronological place, if they have them.
  10. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    I started with the 12 caesars, moved to the adoptive cearars and now have started on the second and third centuries. Ironically the emperors who were in office for the shortest time, and often the least interesting cost the most because the supply is so small. I can post pictures of a growing number of these pieces over time. But perhaps parts of my bullet book would more interesting.
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  11. DonnaML

    DonnaML Supporter! Supporter

    What is a bullet book?
  12. robinjojo

    robinjojo Well-Known Member

    This is very intense...by the end of the first century AD I think I'm going to lose my Nerva!
  13. robinjojo

    robinjojo Well-Known Member

    I think there is the real possibility, too, that the sequence of the more common emperors and empresses might get a little jumbled up, as posts are made, if that's a concern....
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  14. Herodotus

    Herodotus Well-Known Member

    It will get more Severe by the end of the 2nd.

    By the end of the 3rd it ought to reach a Maximum, only to have Honor restored by the end of the 4th.
  15. robinjojo

    robinjojo Well-Known Member

    And by the third century it's going to be one giant Maesa!
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  16. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana Supporter

    AR Denarius. 3.19g, 17.6mm. Rome mint, 15 Jan to mid-April AD 69. RIC I (second edition) Otho 8 (R2); Sear 2161. O: IMP M OTHO CAESAR AVG TR P, bare head right. R: SECVRITAS P R, Securitas, draped, standing left, holding wreath in right hand and sceptre in left.
    Notes: Same reverse die as S141 (Bologna museum) from Jyrki Muono's die study of Otho denarii, with an obverse die unknown to him but close to that of the Bologna coin and in his opinion, "undoubtedly cut by the same engraver".
  17. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter Khnum-Hotep

    Here is another Galba:

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  18. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

    i thought we were still on OTHO?

    It's so random that it's almost alphabetical!!!!



  19. DonnaML

    DonnaML Supporter! Supporter

    Don't make me post my Vitellius. He doesn't look his handsome best in it.
  20. DonnaML

    DonnaML Supporter! Supporter

    By the way, the highest numbered Imperial coins I have from that rarity list are for nos. 128 and 131, so I won't be the person supplying a lot of obscure emperors.

    Also, I find it very hard to believe that Gordian III is only the 31st most common.
    Last edited: Jun 2, 2020
  21. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana Supporter

    I vote for posting it. All our coins need love!
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