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Message:: [QUOTE="Ed Sims, post: 1859895, member: 59688"]Bowers in his Official Red Book of Type Coins he says in the Standing Liberty quarter series to look at the inner shield and the outer rivets of the shield on full head designated quarters for full details there and if it doesn't then keep searching for one that does which echoes TomB's sentiment that the strike required for a full anything should apply to entire side of the coin. In another one of Bowers' books he even says he doesn't think there should be a premium for any coin graded MS-66 or higher because he doesn't believe in those grades. Come on, can anyone really with any degree of accuracy differentiate an MS-66 from a -67 or -68? At that level it is all subjective and on any day an MS-68 could be graded MS-65 and vice versa. The grading services are not even consistent with mint state grades between MS-61 to -65 which actually is somewhat easier to accomplish. The highest graded coins I buy are MS-64 simply because the premium in many cases for the next grade point is too much and also an MS-64 can have a better strike and eye appeal. I would never pay a premium for a copper coin in a slab designated as Red simply because that coin will ultimately turn to red/brown and then brown it is just a matter of time when those changes will occur. Grading service slabs are not hermetically sealed so air and humidity does get in to the coin.[/QUOTE]