Fugio Cent...real or fake?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by petronius, Jul 19, 2017.

  1. petronius

    petronius Duke

    Hi to all :)

    An user of the Italian forum lamoneta.it, found a 1787 Fugio Cent in a junk box

    https://www.lamoneta.it/topic/161216-un-centesimo-americano/

    In the Italian forum, we have many doubts about authenticity of this coin, we know that it's a rare coin, quite impossible to find by chance, expecially outside of US.
    But we aren't totally sure, so, I ask for your help ;)

    Diameter is 28 mm., correct, weight 11.20 gr., maybe a bit high, but I found on the web other examples weighing more than 11 grams.

    fugio centD.jpg

    fugio centR.jpg

    fugio centB.jpg

    Thanks to all :)

    petronius :cool:
     
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  3. Dougmeister

    Dougmeister Well-Known Member

    I vote fake based on the story and the exquisite condition. Waiting to hear the experts... @jester3681 ?
     
  4. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Looks like a "modern" counterfeit; however, still worth something as a fake.

    Broken lower rings, thick edge, and surface quality all signs of C/F.
     
  5. jester3681

    jester3681 Exonumia Enthusiast

    Absolutely fake. The punches used on the reverse ring stars are completely wrong.
     
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  6. jester3681

    jester3681 Exonumia Enthusiast

    Jeeze, so is the lettering.
     
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  7. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    to good to be true
     
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  8. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    I am almost 100% sure that is a fake Fugio. The devices and legends are much too uniform and too defined, the fabric and look of the coin is not convincing. Fugios do not look like that.
    Have not tried to match it to one of the varies, but there is no need in my opinion.
     
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  9. jester3681

    jester3681 Exonumia Enthusiast

    I keep coming back and finding more - looking closely at the rings on the reverse, they're all wrong, too.
     
  10. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    The fabric feels modern
     
  11. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

  12. petronius

    petronius Duke

    Well, I think there are no more doubts now :D

    Thanks to all again :)

    petronius
     
  13. Chad Phillips

    Chad Phillips New Member

    Could someone tell me about mine? My grandpa left it to me when he passed
     
  14. l.cutler

    l.cutler Member

    Sure post some pictures, we should be able to help.
     
  15. SilverDollar2017

    SilverDollar2017 Morgan dollars

  16. Arnold Coindexter

    Arnold Coindexter New Member

    I found this fugio online. Can anyone verify if this is real? 68118D32-44EC-427C-9033-61D6B809C254.jpeg 9BBD3F8C-80B2-428F-AEBD-40EE29E88032.jpeg
     
  17. 1916D10C

    1916D10C Key Date Mercs are Life! 1916-D/1921-D/1921

    It's fake. Unless you know this coin (and all rarities for that matter) and have studied it well, I wouldn't buy one unless it is slabbed by a TPG.
     
  18. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    Arnold, that is a very obvious fake. You may want to look at Heritage Auctions archives, or PCGS Coinfacts, to see what authentic Fugios look like. If you plan on buying one, purchase one certified by a reputable grading service. They are great coins a distillate of American values. Happy collecting!
    Fugio cent 1787 obv.jpg Fugio cent 1787 rev.jpg
     
  19. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Arnold, that piece is a copy of a New Haven restrike. Not even a copy of a real Fugio.
     
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  20. Bridgett Smith

    Bridgett Smith New Member

    My grandfather left a coin to my dad and over the years I've been drawn to it however after reading the rarity of the coin I was wondering if someone who is a advide collector would be able to give me some feedback about the coin that has been a favorite of mine since I was 14.
     
  21. Bridgett Smith

    Bridgett Smith New Member

    I'd like to see some pictures of the coin myself so I can get a little more perspective as to what to look for
     
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