Featured FS-901 DDR 1899 Barber Quarter . . . Fake?

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  1. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Is there any possibility that the coin was genuine and in a very degraded condition. It was completely tooled and even restored or altered afterwards to look that way? Sorry to intervene so promptly but I can't imagine a certified US coin to be a fake.
     
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  3. justafarmer

    justafarmer Senior Member

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  4. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator


    I emailed John about this a few weeks ago, but haven't heard anything back. I expected to see him Sunday at Nashua, but he wasn't there.
     
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  5. justafarmer

    justafarmer Senior Member

    Just more questions on my part - is this the only known example of 1899 FS-901?
     
  6. C-B-D

    C-B-D U.S. Type Coins or death!

    Yes.
     
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  7. mlov43

    mlov43 주화 수집가 Supporter

    Good golly Miss Molly...
     
  8. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    If the only known example is not real, there is no DDR for this coin.
    The IN GOD WE TRUST is not even close.
    This would be hilarious if it's not even silver.
     
  9. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    I wouldn't call it hilarious if it was that far off, because if it is than you really have to start going through the FS numbers and Wexler numbers and double checking them
     
  10. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random nobody...

    Nice deflection of PCGS’ mistake.
     
  11. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    I didn't know PCGS is the one who comes up with FS and Wexler numbers.....

    But hey who cares about facts right?

    That's all I'm going to feed your trolling on the matter
     
  12. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random nobody...

    They had the coin in hand. They had at least three experts to grade the coin (who don’t even do the variety attributions) at their disposal who looked at the coin in hand. They had ample time to verify the coin for themselves. But whatever. It has to be someone else’s mistake.
     
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  13. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    So PCGS does assign FS and Wexler numbers now and writes those guides?

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  14. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random nobody...

    They don’t, but it’s irrelevant. Their grading/authentication experts, who are decoupled from the variety attribution process, called it authentic.
     
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  15. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random nobody...

    Careful, you might be allergic to that stuff
     
  16. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Just lulz. At least admit you're trolling at this point and cannot possibly believe that FS and Wexler reference guides don't carry a ton of sway with TPG variety attributions?
     
  17. Razz

    Razz Critical Thinker

    There is no spinning this one, it is fake.
     
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  18. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random nobody...

    The people who look at the coin to assign the grade are not the same ones who attribute the variety. What part of that do you not understand?

    I’m not the troll here. You are the one who is failing simple reading comprehension.
     
  19. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Here's your free lesson for the day. Overton, Fortin, Vams, FS, Wexler, Cohen, JRS, WB, Bass etc etc etc varieties are attributed off of the references they put out. Many of those send letters denoting a new variety when they believe a new one should be noted to get the first discovery etc.

    So again are you trolling or really that clueless?
     
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  20. Razz

    Razz Critical Thinker

    Does it matter which variety it is or is not if the coin itself is FAKE?
     
  21. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Practically speaking no, but it had a FS and Wexler number so that can show how it was ever accepted in the first place

    Everyone makes mistakes, so maybe a little more checking on these variety guides would be a good idea if so.
     
    Last edited: May 21, 2019
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