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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Marsyas Mike, post: 8354830, member: 85693&quot;]Reviving this interesting and informative thread as I&#039;d like to share a half-baked theory on the Manlia Scantilla-Julia Domna alteration situation.&nbsp; I conjured this theory up about fifteen minutes ago, and I have very little knowledge about these matters, so Half-Baked Internet Theory Alert! <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie67" alt=":nailbiting:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p><b>The Theory:</b>&nbsp; You can tell a Manlia Scantilla coin from Julia Domna by the (nascent) double chin on the former.&nbsp; Julia Domna is never shown double-chinned - her jawline is firmly horizontal (at least that I could find).&nbsp; Manlia Scantilla&#039;s jawline is show at a roughly 45-degree angle; on better preserved specimens you can actually see a slight jowl.&nbsp; The Woodward plates (linked by [USER=75937]@Roman Collector[/USER] above) seem to support this double-chin theory.&nbsp; So do the coins RC features in the OP.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>Julia Domna (from various auctions on acsearch; I can provide full references; the pic titles include the auction house) - note the firm, horizontally-oriented jawline:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1482769[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1482770[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1482771[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Manlia Scantilla - note the slope of her jawline, age-appropriate for a Roman Matron (acsearch auctions):</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1482773[/ATTACH] </p><p>[ATTACH=full]1482774[/ATTACH] </p><p>[ATTACH=full]1482775[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>This one is a bit ambiguous, somewhat diminishing my half-baked theory; but the chin/jaw is shorter than is usually seen on Julia Domna, if not sloped so much as the others:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1482776[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>The reason I am bringing this up is because of lot of very low-grade AEs I&#039;m working on, which included this gem (18.23 grams on a dumpy 25 mm flan); the portrait just didn&#039;t look entirely like Julia Domna to me, so I started poking around the web and came across this CT post, and started looking a acsearch auctions, etc.:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1482779[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>So as you can see, as with all half-baked theories, I have an ulterior motive - I want to own a $5 Manlia Scantilla sestertius!!&nbsp; <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie57" alt=":jawdrop:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie59" alt=":joyful:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie30" alt=":bucktooth:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Unfortunately, none of the legend is visible, just a few ghost letters amongst the pitting, perhaps. But look at that jawline! <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie87" alt=":sorry:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1482780[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Were I energetic, talented and dishonest, this could be smoothed and engraved into a definite Manlia Scantilla.&nbsp; But that&#039;s not going to happen on my watch - just a half-baked theory about Manlia Scantilla&#039;s slightly sagging jaw line.&nbsp; A boy can dream, can&#039;t he?&nbsp; <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie101" alt=":woot:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Please feel free to demolish my jawline theory.&nbsp; Or tell me this theory already exists, in a footnote in RIC from 75 years ago.&nbsp; You won&#039;t hurt my feelings.&nbsp; <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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