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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Publius2, post: 5412239, member: 105571&quot;]That is an interesting question.&nbsp; I have looked at many coins, and have purchased a few, in top TPG slabs that I believed would have profited from a removal of dirt and/or other encrustations.</p><p><br /></p><p>But, for the life of me I cannot see any upside for the TPG doing it, even if they went to the time, trouble and expense of seeking and obtaining the submitter&#039;s approval.&nbsp; Here&#039;s my reasoning, feel free to poke holes:</p><p><br /></p><p>1)&nbsp; At least NGC and maybe others sell a separate conservation service.&nbsp; Why would they undercut that source of revenues?</p><p>2)&nbsp; The normal submission/return cycle would be delayed if, during normal grading and encapsulation, they had to stop the process and communicate to gain permission to clean a coin.&nbsp; As you can imagine, this could entail a complicated set of exchanges.</p><p>3)&nbsp; Liability issues:&nbsp; TPG would have to get a liability waiver in order to do anything to the coin because as we all know;&nbsp; you don&#039;t know what&#039;s under &quot;dirt&quot; until it is removed and coins can be damaged even by responsible and knowledgeable conservation.&nbsp;&nbsp; I can easily see some people making claims for diminution of a coin&#039;s value unless extensive disclaimers and liability exclusions were inked, all occurring during what would otherwise be a straight-forward grading and encapsulation process.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now, I could see the TPGs, during a normal grading process, communicating to the owner that they believe the coin would benefit from a conservation and then, with the owner&#039;s concurrence, shifting the coin over to their conservation service with it&#039;s higher fees, longer process time, and waivers/exclusions.&nbsp; But my impression is that this is already occurring at least to some degree.&nbsp; I don&#039;t have any experience submitting coins, so I readily admit ignorance.</p><p><br /></p><p>And finally, if the submitter doesn&#039;t like the dirt, why doesn&#039;t he remove it before he submits the coin to the TPG?&nbsp; We all know why so don&#039;t beat me up - this is more of a rhetorical question.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>[USER=24314]@Insider[/USER] would you amplify your meaning?&nbsp; Are you saying the top 2 (or 3 or 4) TPGs already remove dirt from coins submitted for normal processing, not the conservation service?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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