Frauds and fakes??

http://www.ebay.com/itm/22186582613...1&exe=12808&ext=32575&sojTags=exe=exe,ext=ext

What do you all make of this???

 

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Looks pretty fake to me.

 

Yeesh! Fake.

 

Strange sales item! I would never pay anything for a fake looking, especially when there is no mention of being genuine.

 

Fake,it those pain in my eyes

 

Fake enough that I can tell

 

I felt the same way and even sent a message to the seller...he responded with several return messages identifying the coin as a rare Nigrinianus and suggested I google it for confirmation. Not once did he state it was a replica or reproduction.

Of course, there were few bare-headed examples on acsearch---most were radiates---and even one fake that was sold for a similar price as this one, but identified as such. He even has offered another vaguely described type with the same 'soft' appearance.

It still amazes me that such blatant fakes are presented as genuine coins, especially those of a scarce Emperor and rare in all types. This seller has a 100% rating, but it appears that was the result of selling items other than ancient coins. Perhaps he has gotten in over his head or he has simply gotten greedy....

 

This seller has two kinds of ancients. The very rough coins shown with out of focus photos may be genuine but are worthless. The ones with sharper photos are fakes. The highlight to me is the Macedonian tetradrachm countermarked 1986. I wonder what the significance of that date is?

 

It really frustrates me that people are this way. I am not being naive, I get that some people are evil. But, I really dislike it when someone has APPROACHED this seller, explained the problem, and they just elude with their slippery answers. Life is way too short to cheat for $56.00. I know that could be almost 20 meals for some people, but this person is sophisticated enough to run an eBay business... If it were an HONEST mistake, that can be understood. This does not look like it. I just don't get these people.

 

That makes two of us AL

I didn't notice that one Doug---perhaps, like beer, it's the 'born on date'?? LOL

 

Back then it was common for reproductions to have the year of manufacture imprinted onto them. Check out the message on the attached pictures of a tile which attests to this practice. I suppose this was seen as more fashionable than putting "copy" on objects back then, although this would have helped to avoid confusion.

 

Well I'm the dummy that won the Macedonian 1986 auction. Turns out I'm not as smart as I thought. I was inspired by JA's bad pic gambles thread, which is still one of my favorite threads on this board. After I won I noticed the seller had a second coin of the same type with visible casting bubbles and emailed about cancelling the order. It's only been a few hours but no reply yet..

Correction: different coin. The auction was this one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ancient-Gre...Good-detail-/221865826466?hash=item33a83bd8a2

 

The tetradrachm has not closed yet. Some one will buy it figuring that a 1% chance of getting a $500 coin for $5 makes sense and they will sell it to someone one twice as foolish for $10. There is not a 1% chance of the thing being real but there seems no end to people willing to throw money away. Just as a matter of record, buying ancient coins from a seller who has sharp photos of stamps and fuzzy pictures of round things that might be coins is not the way to build a collection.

People who cheat beginners are in the business for the short haul. They do not plan on cheating the same people over and over but they do know there will be a new set of customers born every minute so there is no problem. There are dealers who have sold me coins with some regularity for decades. Either they sell good coins or I am a very slow learner.

 

Yeah I didn't even look at his other auctions. Live and learn, I suppose.

 

He said it's definitely an ancient coin but if I want to cancel just don't pay, which I'm taking him up on.

 

Yeah, just don't pay. If he tries to rate you as a buyer you can protest to Ebay. More likely you will not hear another word. He doesn't want to be identified as a fake seller.

 

I know a guy who kept buying fake stuff as original (due to ignorance mainly) for years...-in fact, once I met the guy who sold him fakes: coins, glassware, papirus, you name it. He even bought "a glass from the Titanic" (imagine that!)-.
Well, this guy with all this fake-filled collection tried to sell an authentic dinosaur bone he got on the black market and was detained by INTERPOL, since it is against the law here. And as they were no coin experts whatsoever at the time of his detention, they took ALL his collection as evidence!

Point is: if the buyer keeps buying but doesn´t care to learn, he will confidently keep buying anything to anyone. Even for years.

 

Wow...perhaps he lived in the heart of Amsterdam's Coffee Shop district and was stuck in LA-LA Land!

 

It almost look that they are made of brass!

 

As the population increases the % of jerks will rise in proportion or faster.I agree it's a real lowlife way to be but this is the times we live in. I just bought a "no cents nickle" so it's an old story......