Franklin Half Dollars? Supply and demand?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by cc51, Aug 19, 2009.

  1. msungs

    msungs New Member

    I have weighed 100 Franklins and only about 5 were on the extreme ends. 3 were 12.3 grams and 2 were 12.67 grams. That is a 0.075 gram difference on the low end from the 1% threshold and a 0.045 Gram difference on the high end for the 1% threshold (like you said the threshold would be 12.375 on the low end and 12.625 on the high end). I can't even find Fake/Copy/Fascimile Franklin Half Dollars on Ebay. I like your point about how a $1,000 face bag comes in within 1% always. If I took my hundred half dollars I would say 65 are in the 12.45-12.55 Gram range and the other 30 are in the 12.38-12.44 and the 12.56-12.60 range and only five are a little on the extreme ends. When they were pressing these coins it makes sense that some slabs were thicker than others and no two coins are exactly the same and I have only seen a few coins match out exactly to 12.50g, with that being said if you took my averages from the 100 Franklins they would be well within the 1% range when averaged. 3 of the Franklins are worn and well circulated, 2 aren't. I can't see anyone faking these yet and I have bought from well respected dealers on ebay (some have between 400-40,000 sales with almost all of them having 100% scores). I think some coins are naturally a little lighter and others a little heavier and this is how a $1,000 bag balances itself out to within 1%. Considering some are already slightly underweight it makes sense that with a little bit of circulation that some of the coin would wear away it is like any metal with friction. I have heavily worn Liberty Quarters that are down to 5.5g when it should be 6.25 grams. What do you think?
     
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  3. msungs

    msungs New Member

    I would say the chances between having a coin under weight and over weight are about 50% to 50%. Very rarely do I ever measure a Franklin or a 1964 Kennedy and find it to be 12.50g spot on. It is almost always 12.48g or 12.53g or something like that. So I would say giving the fact that it should be spot on (12.5g) a 33% likelihood is a little overstretched. Nonetheless thanks for the help and you have made me think about things in a different light and come up with some of my own ideas. I appreciate your thoughts and thanks for your time.
     
  4. msungs

    msungs New Member

    I love weighing the coins and seeing if I get a little more Silver and to verify that my coins are authentic. I know the Chinese are probably coming up with some plot to copy Franklin Halves especially if Silver goes parabolic because of the coming US Dollar melt down.
     
  5. msungs

    msungs New Member

    I have some definitive information. Every coin has specific tolerance levels and certain specifications. The specification and tolerance levels for the US Benjamin Franklin Half Dollar are +/- .259 meaning that the tolerance range is 12.241-12.759 grams. This information can be found in the "Red Book Professional Edition", through printed sources, or online. Since I have measured my coins with calipers and now I am armed with this information I think it is safe to say my coins are authentic. Thank you for your time GDJMSP because you really made me think about some things in a different way. Your general rule of thumb is a good one to apply if you want to be safe, I just wanted the official tolerance ranges and my coins pass. Thanks and I look forward to meeting you again in the forums.
     
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