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<p>[QUOTE="Insider, post: 24831261, member: 24314"]The OP has opened a FBL rats nest! See: <i><b>"Along with the obverse."</b></i></p><p><br /></p><p>It is MHO that some professionals folks have made coin grading so complicated that only "they" can do it! So grading FBL on Franklins has been so screwed up by folks who should know better (greed?) that you'll never get a satisfactory answer! You will need to make your own standards or know the standards of the TPGS you use becaust they are different.</p><p><br /></p><p>The serious Franklin collectors have their own standards that to my knowledge no one follows except them. Let me start with them. FBL's are an indication of the strength of the details of the design ON THE REVERSE. The amout of detail on a MS coin is influenced by a number of factors. The obverse and reverse of a coin can have a different appearance due to these factors. To get a fully detailed, fully struck coin (the FBL designation) from a Frankling expert The OBVERSE of the coin must show strong hair whisps! This would indicate a fully struck coin on both sides.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now for the professionals: Most others don't bother with the obverse strike and are only concerned with the bands on the bell (FBL). Now, the wacky part. Somewhere in the past, some <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie34" alt=":clown:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> desided that any mark across the COMPLETE and STRONG BL design would eliminate it from the FBL designation! <b><span style="color: #ff0000">STRIKE and MARKS are two different things</span></b> but this unknown to me <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie30" alt=":bucktooth:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie34" alt=":clown:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> "<b><span style="color: #b35900">Ex-Pert</span></b>" made the rules that we follow. Additionally, some might ignore a shallow mark that does not penetrate to the bottom of the BL. Marks remaining from the original planchet that cross the lines are treated the same as contact marks (PMD) from circulation.</p><p><br /></p><p>Clear as mud? I'm not finished with this <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie30" alt=":bucktooth:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> nonsense. In the past decades, some greedy <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie47" alt=":greedy:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie47" alt=":greedy:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie47" alt=":greedy:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> professional at a TPGS decided he could get additional business if they would LOWER THE long held STANDARDS for the FBL designation. Previously, both the upper and lower BL had to be complete and mark free to get the FBL designation. THAT WAS CHANGED so that now, many folks only care about the bottom BL's. <b>All of this affects the value of a coin.</b></p><p><br /></p><p>Grading a coin's condition of preservation is an <i>easily determined constant</i> as long as it remains the same. As soon as commercial grading (PLACING A VALUE ON A COIN) is involved, the condition of the market, evolving grading "standards," rarity of the coin (date, mint, mintage, survivors), and its provenence is considered, grading becomes a complex art left to the professionals.</p><p><br /></p><p>PS An image with fluorescent light would remove the glare so we could see the BL better.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Insider, post: 24831261, member: 24314"]The OP has opened a FBL rats nest! See: [I][B]"Along with the obverse."[/B][/I] It is MHO that some professionals folks have made coin grading so complicated that only "they" can do it! So grading FBL on Franklins has been so screwed up by folks who should know better (greed?) that you'll never get a satisfactory answer! You will need to make your own standards or know the standards of the TPGS you use becaust they are different. The serious Franklin collectors have their own standards that to my knowledge no one follows except them. Let me start with them. FBL's are an indication of the strength of the details of the design ON THE REVERSE. The amout of detail on a MS coin is influenced by a number of factors. The obverse and reverse of a coin can have a different appearance due to these factors. To get a fully detailed, fully struck coin (the FBL designation) from a Frankling expert The OBVERSE of the coin must show strong hair whisps! This would indicate a fully struck coin on both sides. Now for the professionals: Most others don't bother with the obverse strike and are only concerned with the bands on the bell (FBL). Now, the wacky part. Somewhere in the past, some :clown: desided that any mark across the COMPLETE and STRONG BL design would eliminate it from the FBL designation! [B][COLOR=#ff0000]STRIKE and MARKS are two different things[/COLOR][/B] but this unknown to me :bucktooth::clown: "[B][COLOR=#b35900]Ex-Pert[/COLOR][/B]" made the rules that we follow. Additionally, some might ignore a shallow mark that does not penetrate to the bottom of the BL. Marks remaining from the original planchet that cross the lines are treated the same as contact marks (PMD) from circulation. Clear as mud? I'm not finished with this :bucktooth: nonsense. In the past decades, some greedy :greedy::greedy::greedy: professional at a TPGS decided he could get additional business if they would LOWER THE long held STANDARDS for the FBL designation. Previously, both the upper and lower BL had to be complete and mark free to get the FBL designation. THAT WAS CHANGED so that now, many folks only care about the bottom BL's. [B]All of this affects the value of a coin.[/B] Grading a coin's condition of preservation is an [I]easily determined constant[/I] as long as it remains the same. As soon as commercial grading (PLACING A VALUE ON A COIN) is involved, the condition of the market, evolving grading "standards," rarity of the coin (date, mint, mintage, survivors), and its provenence is considered, grading becomes a complex art left to the professionals. PS An image with fluorescent light would remove the glare so we could see the BL better.[/QUOTE]
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