Log in or Sign up
Coin Talk
Home
Forums
>
Coin Forums
>
US Coins Forum
>
Found this eBay Seller with some really nice and even rare coins!
>
Reply to Thread
Message:
<p>[QUOTE="Aberlight, post: 303558, member: 6510"]Mike,</p><p><br /></p><p>No offense taken, but I just thought of something. I have a pretty decent collection of high grade coins and have told my wife if something ever happens to me to not sell the coins as a collection to a dealer, but to take individual photos and sell them individually on Ebay. As she doesn't know the difference in gold eagle or golden dollar much less value then I am certain her auction format would look similar to the seller in particular on Ebay along with hitting a few of you key points.</p><p><br /></p><p>Such as.....</p><p><br /></p><p>1) "as-is, no return policy";......It wouldn't occur to her that coins are offered with return policies as she thinks a coin is a coin and returns are for broken items.</p><p>2) only checks or money orders accepted -- no PayPal;....Probably would take it, but has never sold on Ebay.</p><p>3) pictures taken at an angle which tends to hide problems....She would do her best or have someone take close up pictures with or without angles just to get the details in focus.</p><p>4) "estate" sale mentioned multiple times...May say this is my dead husbands coin collection and I am not a expert (which is true).</p><p>5) coins "graded long ago" yet many appear to be seem to be freshly dipped.....Unfortunately I dont list any grades on my coins</p><p>6) multi color auctions with large fonts.....She is a computer programmer and the auction may have large color fonts as she believes all collectors are old and cant see. As the computer programmer she is the auction would probably have roll over effects, links to a memorial on MySpace and music. There is no telling how elaborate the auction would be.</p><p>7) majority of bidders are low-feedback....There may be bidders with low feedback participate.</p><p>8) high-dollar coins offered uncertified.....I dont like slabs and think they are ugly while taking up to much room. All, and I do mean all my coins are placed into airtites even the ones that come in slabs. I have $1000 proof seated liberty halves uncertified along with many other MS coins. My wife would sell them as they are in the airtites.</p><p>9) feedback specifically mentioning both misleading pictures and TPG-cofirmed altered services....This could happen as my wife would just list what she finds and as some of my coins have light hairline scratches not captured in the image, a buyer would leave similar feedback as they wouldn't be certified by PCGS or NGC. A good example is that I have bought coins such as a 1892 Isabelle quater with full strike and a light rub that has light hairline scratches covered by natural toning for $175-$200 then I would to buy one identical that doesn't have hairline scratches for $500. Thats just my preference as the light scratches are worth the $300 difference.</p><p>10) Seller has coin sales dating back to 2002, yet all of a sudden they get an "estate sale"....My wife has been on Ebay 5 years and has a rating of 20 along with never selling a item and hasn't bought in over a year.</p><p>11) virtually all the coins have a smilar look -- overdipped.......My coins are not over dipped, although a few have been dipped such as common date walkers and proof Kennedys. If pictures are taken indoors then the images would all have a yellow tint from incandescent bulbs not metering correctly with the cameras white balance thus they all have the same look aside from the rainbow toned coins. I hope she wouldn't dip all of them although she does know rainbow toned coins carry a premium.</p><p>12) the "estate settlement doesn't allow for returns" (have you ever heard of such a thing, as if the grandfather requested in his will that no returns are allowed.)....Thats a good point as my will doesn't say sell "as is", but again, she hasn't bought much on Ebay and the concept of a return policy is unknown to her.</p><p>13) overgrading -- labeling obviously circulated pieces as UNC and FDC......I dont know what this seller means by FDC, but as the vast majority of my coins are UNC she could see similar coins for sell and think UNC was a collectors format although I believe this seller is just repeating what he sees written on the paper holder. Likely she would look at the coin and list it 1916 quarter not knowing the difference in a Standing Liberty or Barber quarter, much less that they are carry D,S or blank mintmarks for P.</p><p>14) labeling common as dirt coins (circulated 1945 WLH, for example) as "Rare condition"......For her all my coins are rare and if I had bag of worn wheat pennies from the 1950's they would be rare too as this is concept applied to something not common. Although wheat pennies are common to us, she has never seen one in change, much less been to a coin show or shop where there are trays full for 5 cents.</p><p><br /></p><p>Just wanted to show the mindset of someone trying to sell something that they dont know anything about.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Aberlight, post: 303558, member: 6510"]Mike, No offense taken, but I just thought of something. I have a pretty decent collection of high grade coins and have told my wife if something ever happens to me to not sell the coins as a collection to a dealer, but to take individual photos and sell them individually on Ebay. As she doesn't know the difference in gold eagle or golden dollar much less value then I am certain her auction format would look similar to the seller in particular on Ebay along with hitting a few of you key points. Such as..... 1) "as-is, no return policy";......It wouldn't occur to her that coins are offered with return policies as she thinks a coin is a coin and returns are for broken items. 2) only checks or money orders accepted -- no PayPal;....Probably would take it, but has never sold on Ebay. 3) pictures taken at an angle which tends to hide problems....She would do her best or have someone take close up pictures with or without angles just to get the details in focus. 4) "estate" sale mentioned multiple times...May say this is my dead husbands coin collection and I am not a expert (which is true). 5) coins "graded long ago" yet many appear to be seem to be freshly dipped.....Unfortunately I dont list any grades on my coins 6) multi color auctions with large fonts.....She is a computer programmer and the auction may have large color fonts as she believes all collectors are old and cant see. As the computer programmer she is the auction would probably have roll over effects, links to a memorial on MySpace and music. There is no telling how elaborate the auction would be. 7) majority of bidders are low-feedback....There may be bidders with low feedback participate. 8) high-dollar coins offered uncertified.....I dont like slabs and think they are ugly while taking up to much room. All, and I do mean all my coins are placed into airtites even the ones that come in slabs. I have $1000 proof seated liberty halves uncertified along with many other MS coins. My wife would sell them as they are in the airtites. 9) feedback specifically mentioning both misleading pictures and TPG-cofirmed altered services....This could happen as my wife would just list what she finds and as some of my coins have light hairline scratches not captured in the image, a buyer would leave similar feedback as they wouldn't be certified by PCGS or NGC. A good example is that I have bought coins such as a 1892 Isabelle quater with full strike and a light rub that has light hairline scratches covered by natural toning for $175-$200 then I would to buy one identical that doesn't have hairline scratches for $500. Thats just my preference as the light scratches are worth the $300 difference. 10) Seller has coin sales dating back to 2002, yet all of a sudden they get an "estate sale"....My wife has been on Ebay 5 years and has a rating of 20 along with never selling a item and hasn't bought in over a year. 11) virtually all the coins have a smilar look -- overdipped.......My coins are not over dipped, although a few have been dipped such as common date walkers and proof Kennedys. If pictures are taken indoors then the images would all have a yellow tint from incandescent bulbs not metering correctly with the cameras white balance thus they all have the same look aside from the rainbow toned coins. I hope she wouldn't dip all of them although she does know rainbow toned coins carry a premium. 12) the "estate settlement doesn't allow for returns" (have you ever heard of such a thing, as if the grandfather requested in his will that no returns are allowed.)....Thats a good point as my will doesn't say sell "as is", but again, she hasn't bought much on Ebay and the concept of a return policy is unknown to her. 13) overgrading -- labeling obviously circulated pieces as UNC and FDC......I dont know what this seller means by FDC, but as the vast majority of my coins are UNC she could see similar coins for sell and think UNC was a collectors format although I believe this seller is just repeating what he sees written on the paper holder. Likely she would look at the coin and list it 1916 quarter not knowing the difference in a Standing Liberty or Barber quarter, much less that they are carry D,S or blank mintmarks for P. 14) labeling common as dirt coins (circulated 1945 WLH, for example) as "Rare condition"......For her all my coins are rare and if I had bag of worn wheat pennies from the 1950's they would be rare too as this is concept applied to something not common. Although wheat pennies are common to us, she has never seen one in change, much less been to a coin show or shop where there are trays full for 5 cents. Just wanted to show the mindset of someone trying to sell something that they dont know anything about.[/QUOTE]
Your name or email address:
Do you already have an account?
No, create an account now.
Yes, my password is:
Forgot your password?
Stay logged in
Coin Talk
Home
Forums
>
Coin Forums
>
US Coins Forum
>
Found this eBay Seller with some really nice and even rare coins!
>
Home
Home
Quick Links
Search Forums
Recent Activity
Recent Posts
Forums
Forums
Quick Links
Search Forums
Recent Posts
Competitions
Competitions
Quick Links
Competition Index
Rules, Terms & Conditions
Gallery
Gallery
Quick Links
Search Media
New Media
Showcase
Showcase
Quick Links
Search Items
Most Active Members
New Items
Directory
Directory
Quick Links
Directory Home
New Listings
Members
Members
Quick Links
Notable Members
Current Visitors
Recent Activity
New Profile Posts
Sponsors
Menu
Search
Search titles only
Posted by Member:
Separate names with a comma.
Newer Than:
Search this thread only
Search this forum only
Display results as threads
Useful Searches
Recent Posts
More...