Found something pretty awesome! Please help me out.

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Kyle3737, Jun 1, 2012.

  1. Kyle3737

    Kyle3737 New Member

    Unbelievable. I would not sell a coin knowing it's PMD. It sound EXACTLY like silver when I dropped it.

    You know what I don't have time for this. I'm sorry to anyone that thinks I used them. Geez
     
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  3. Zimmy

    Zimmy Member

    These are the types of listings that gives the error hobby a bad taste. Someday the buyer will realize what he or she won. Shame on the bidder for not being well educated but shame on the lister for "baiting" that person in. I don't know if anyone else has the same view as me but I sick of seeing acid treated coins listed on ebay.
     
  4. bobbeth87

    bobbeth87 Coin Collector

    The auction has been ended.

    Yea!
     
  5. rlspears10

    rlspears10 Member

    • goose3737

      Added to my list of eBay sellers to stay away from. He came on here acting like he knew little about error coins. Look at his ebay account; all he sells is coins.
     
  6. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    LOL

    I was going to post but saw 3 pages, I knew someone would figure it out
     
  7. d.t.menace

    d.t.menace Member

  8. bobbeth87

    bobbeth87 Coin Collector

    Yes, I noticed that one as well DTMenace. He has a way of hyping these questionable coins, doesn't he....

    As I said earlier......Boooooo
     
  9. ratio411

    ratio411 Active Member

    So how would soaking the coin in acid make it so thin?
    I just don't see it without totally destroying the detail as thin as it is.
     
  10. d.t.menace

    d.t.menace Member

    Jim answered that here in post #22.
    Read more: http://www.cointalk.com/t207334-2/#ixzz1wmOClIvD
     
  11. ratio411

    ratio411 Active Member

    Yeah, I read the thread.
    I just don't see it.
    That is a great deal of detail for such a loss of volume.
    Especially the letters.
     
  12. silentnviolent

    silentnviolent accumulator--selling--make an offer I can't refuse

    I've posted thinner cents on here before that retained much of the design and were also deemed to be acid coins. they too had a funny 'ring' to them when dropped, but I attribute the tone directly to the loss of mass after the acid ate into it.
     
  13. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    Is "smoosh" a technical minting term? funny.gif
     
  14. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    I'm totally with you on this one . I don't think it would be possible for this to be a acid job , if it was done by any type acid the surface would have deep craters like the surface of the moon. If it is PMD then it's possible it may be a magicians coin like someone told the op it may be. it looks like the coin may have been taken apart and some metal removed and soldered back together and the outer edge ground off to hide the seam.
     
  15. ThinnPikkins

    ThinnPikkins Well-Known Member

    Well seeing as i just saw this picture, I am saying PMD......if you look closely at the picture above, you can see the seam running its course thru the center of this nickel and it being ground on the outside trying to hide it. Obviously someone intentionally did this to deceive (why would it be a magicians coin? i can t think of a trick to support it).
     
  16. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    I think we may have finally narrowed this one down . if it is part of a magicans coin then maybe this was the part that fit inside of a normal nickle that had been hollowed out for this one. this way the magican could produce two coins from one.
     
  17. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    First, you will not get "moon craters" from acid unless, you are using exremely strong acid and dropping it on drop by drop/ If you put the coin into a diluted acid, it will slowly react with the metal. If it is a magician coin half, then why didn't they remove the reverse since by this hypothesis they had metal working tools? All of the magician coins I have seen are made that way.

    To see how acid could dissolve equally, draw a side view with somewhat exaggerated highs and lows, and then draw another image inside that is about 10-20% less, following the contours, the details will stay easily recognizable unless the coin metal is not homogeneous. Remember when we are comparing the thickness of the coin, we are looking a piece of metal that had the acid working on both sides.

    So I took a sample of nickels and measured their thickness, the average was 1.95mm +/- .04mm. The average thickness of sample of silver Roosies were 1.22 +/- .03mm, so a silver dime is 1.95 -1.22 or .73mm thinner.

    Using a magnifier, I measured the distance from the rim of a normal nickel from the edge of the coin to almost touching the bottom of the letters on the reverse( to mimic the OP coin), and the distance was about 0.45mm average, so the effects of an acid to reduce the thickness of the nickle from 1.95 to 1.05 ( little less than a dime) would only reduce the diameter of the coin from 21.2 mm to 20.3mm ( 2x.45) which is Not as noticeable as what appears to be the 50% approx. thickness when the reduction in the diameter is only approx. 5%.

    Also, remember that chemicals such as Nic-A-Date are acid or similar used to bring back details due to changes in the crystal structure of the nickle metal mixture.

    I see the coin as surely done by an acid unless it is a silver blank, but I think that unlikely. % are very low for that.

    Anyway, that is my explanation and I am sticking to it, without it in my hands. IMO of course.

    Jim
     
  18. BenGold

    BenGold New Member

    thats so cool!!
     
  19. mikem2000

    mikem2000 Lost Cause

    But of course, you need to "smoosh" the planchet to make a coin. Some people say strike, but it is not nearly as descriptive :):):)
     
  20. d.t.menace

    d.t.menace Member

    And now everybody that has First Strikes are going to have to have them reholdered to the new First Smoosh labels.

    Strike doubling will now be known as smoosh doubling.
     
  21. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    lol.
    Off center smoosh.
     
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