Found out I made a top pop Roosevelt 3/0

Congrats! That's quite a score!

 

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Thanks....I love searching rolls and us mint sets. I find it much more fun and rewarding sending your own coins to get graded vs just buying the coin already graded. I bet I have search well over 1000 Roosevelt by now. I got a 2007-D Business Strike MS67FT after searching 10 rolls!!

 

Nice job and it's nice to see someone rewarded for hard work. Enjoy them.

 

Nice find and good eye for nailing the grade. Only 3 others similarly graded; that's fantastic!

-LTB

 

Although the Denver coins are generally nicer than the Philadelphia I find it just amazingly lucky to find an ms 67FT in just 10 rolls. You are pretty lucky.

 

Way to go

 

Am I understanding this right: It is rare to have a 1984 dime with both split bands? And If I have one, I should send it in for grading? I am learning, please be nice!

 

Well Split bands definitley adds value Id rather have a MS67 Split bands then a MS68 no split bands. But the key would be that its in mintstate. basically would need to take it from a mint set

 

I am not trying to high jack this thread, but it seems the appropriate place for this.

Are these (straight from my mint sets) nice strikes? Worth grading?

 

I am also amazed at the spread of quality in mint sets. Over the past four years, I've probably gathered 80 or so sets from 1971 to 1991.

It is a true exercise of amazement to go through these sets with a loupe. Some strikes are complete and utter crap and then you'll run across a gem.

When I was building my circ set of Roosevelts, I went though lots of rolls. You would be surprised how few I actually kept.

We just have this idea that if we ever get the energy, we could build a MS-65+ set of recent dimes or nickels or whatever from rolls. It just simply isn't true!

 

the obverse is important also.

 

Here they are again with obverse. I'm starting to feel like I high jacked the thread, ugh. sorry.

 

Thank You for the INFO... Congrats for being number 4th....Place...:hammer:

 

Gbroke...you do have some nice looking dimes....but the most important fact is that it has to have clean fields, no rim nicks, check the high points of Roosevelts face for wear/marks, check the hair for detail and the torch. NGC is the hardest grader for the FT. I would suggest buying a NGC graded Roosevelt so that you have a reference.

please note that I have been sending my own coins to NGC for 3 years and I have got burnt many times. You will have to pay a lot of money in grading fees for the experience. It took me over a year to start getting the grades I wanted. It just keeps getting easier for me to spot the higher grade coins now.

 

Yes I was very happy and even more happy that I got the rolls at the bank for face. I ended up selling it on eBay for a pretty penny.

 

The first one is a nice gem and in the running.

It's hard to tell from the picture if it's a FT or not since it's the ends of the cross bands that have to be split, especially on the right.

The second has a better shot at FT but looks low end gem.

 

I am curious, what are you sending your coins in??? Are you removing them from the sets, or are you sending them still in the mint wrappers?

 

Not only are the gems virtually unknown from rolls from some dates but rolls of some dates are virtually unknown. This last is only a slight exaggeration. I've been collecting the clad quarters since 1972 and have never actually seen an original roll of 1969-P's. I know a few exist and have heard tales of them but haven't seen one despite looking. You can find mint set rolls but not BU rolls. I just missed seeing one back in the '80's when someone cashed some in at a coin shop. There were five or six rolls the dealer dumped in the cash register but then decided there were too many quarters and pulled out as couple handfuls and put in a bowl. They were still in the bowl a couple weeks later when I showed up and bought them for 25c each. It was incredibly a batche of very choice rolls. What makes it incredible is that quality was exactly the reason these didn't get saved; they were so poor no one bothered.

But it's not just most of the quarters that aren't available but some of most denominations. It's never low mintage that makes them tough, it's the fact that people never saw any point in saving modern debased junk; especially where it was very poor quality. There are some gems that appear in rolls and they can even be "common" after a fashion. But common in this instance usually means all the gems in all the rolls in the world won't add up to much more than a few handfulls. There are exceptions where gems certainly measure in the hundreds of thousands but this applies only to cents. Even the bicentennial quarter which was common as dirt probably can't be found more than about 75,000 as gems in rolls. Circulation coins are generally poorly struck from worn and misaligned dies and are banged up long before they leave the mint. Since these generally weren't saved it makes modern varieties quite rare except heavily worn in circulation.

Mint sets are the savior for those who like well made gems. Without the sets these coins would be too rare (or nonexistent) to even attempt. But mint sets are not the panacea many believe they are because coins in the sets can be marked heavily or even have been scraped (like the '80-D half) when they were placed in the set. What most people haven't noticed as they've been ignoring the coins over the years is thaty the mint sets have been disappearing. They were assigned almost no value because there are millions where there are dozens of collectors. The prices are so low that it's profitable for dealers to cut them up for the cash register! People get terrible offers from their sets from dealers so they take them home and toss them in the basement where they are exposed to humidity or floods. (not to mention fire and other calamity). Over the years most of these sets have been totally lost and many of the survivors have degraded.

It used to be that the 2% of a date that was gemmy was plenty of coins to satisfy the thin market but now it might be only 1% of a much smaller number. This situation can not persist indefinitely. I think the only reason it's lasted this long is that a lot of the collectors are relatively new and don't realize that they are running out of time to complete their sets on the cheap. There is already difficulty in obtaining some date mint sets and this isn't just gems but all of that date and all those denominations.

 

I always cut them out and send them in flips.
I also like to take them out of the wrappers so I can photo the coins before sending to grading. I have often found that I found problem that I didn't see in hand.

 

Schatzy,

Do you monkey around with scanning the coins you want to send in? In my limited experience, my scanner is very, very unforgiving and will show me things I've missed all day long.

Of course, when you're talking potential MS-67/68 coins, you don't want to be man-handling them too much!