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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Al Kowsky, post: 6999296, member: 97383&quot;]Let&#039;s not get carried away with the phrase <b>Fleur de Coin</b> <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie85" alt=":smuggrin:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />. This designation was never meant to imply &quot;perfect&quot;. There is no such thing as a perfect ancient coin. Do we actually think that a 2,200 year old coin will show no trace of tarnish or oxidation as a criterion for the <b>FDC</b> designation <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie11" alt=":rolleyes:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />? The expectation that some collectors have that the coin must be perfect in order to attain <b>FDC</b> status would only apply to modern coins with the <b>MS70</b> grade, if that were the case.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1273837[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>I have seen many coins on this forum I wouldn&#039;t hesitate to call <b>FDC</b>, especially coins from the <b>panzerman</b> collection <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />. John has always tried to obtain the finest condition coins available <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />. The criteria for an ancient <b>FDC </b>coin should include: the best strike possible from fresh dies, excellent centering on a fairly round flan that shows all the design elements clearly, &amp; the coin should be in gem mint state &amp; unimprovable. Considering all those criteria, I would consider the coin that started this thread <b>FDC</b>. <b>Roma Numismatics</b> has been known to use the <b>FDC</b> designation rather loosely on many occasions, however, this time I agree with them. Last year I bought a RR denarius from a <b>Roma</b> auction that was labeled <b>FDC</b>, see the photo below. I would never truly consider this coin <b>FDC</b> because the reverse is too far off center, never the less I was happy to add the coin to my collection <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie50" alt=":happy:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />, see the photo below.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1273850[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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