If you're so adamant about it being an 09S VDB. Then I'd highly recommend taking good quality photos of this particular area or examine it with your microscope. Nonetheless, all the diagnostics still point to your coin being a 19S.
Send it in to PCGS, NGC or ANACS. See what they say. With the pics provided here and the EXTREME wear on the coin the only way to settle this is sending it to one of the above mentioned TPG's.
Brenner's initials (VDB), on the reverse at its base, were deemed too prominent once the coins were issued, and were removed within days of the release. The initials were restored, this time smaller, on Lincoln's shoulder, in 1918. Taken from Wikipedia. Sorry guy, I am truly sorry.
I might have been, too, until the "blind, dumb or lying" bit. Also the obverse shot that carefully omits the spot where VDB does appear on the coin. Troll, fool, or both and so much more.
Ok, you said it is...but you’re wrong and we’re trying to help you see your mistake. Nobody is calling you blind, stupid, or anything for making a mistake. That being said, after everyone’s help you are still wrong and that makes you dumb for not listening to anyone. That or you do see that you’re wrong and are lying for some reason. I for one will no longer reply to your posts. You are too dumb and/or arrogant to waste my time trying to help you.
I could be wrong with the date placement with different years but look at the other 1909 vdb post you made. Look at the spacing on that 1909 and you will see that I don't think a 0 will fit proper between the two 9's on this S coin. Where you circled to what you think is a 0 it would be hitting the 9 also. Experts would know if the dates were spread out as needed due to the year? Your starting to make some enemy's on a forum that can help you greatly.. I have wanted to see things too on coins that weren't there..
I can't see it, so I guess you're calling me blind, dumb or lying too? Everyone who's replied is expressing their own opinion which, while it may not line up with yours, they are entitled to express. All I ask is that everyone express those opinions in a respectful manner, which everyone except you has.
Thank you Peter. I feel that most of the members here try to carry on the example that you wish to see on your site. Cool to see you posting.
I was going to say what Bradley said. Use your magnification on the bottom of the jacket, the VDB should be there.
It really doesn't matter. Its either a fake 1909-S VDB, because the mint mark on the OP's coin is in the wrong location, or a 1919-S. Either way the OP's coin is not worth much.
I was wondering when someone was finally going to get around to the mintmark. I wasn't sure about the placement, but the style of the mintmark was wrong for 1909
Based on the poor photos, I don't see how any of you are so sure. I can't see a "1" or a "0". How can people be so adamant about it being 1919 from those photos?!