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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 1510593, member: 112"]Ya know, sometimes I wonder if it's even worth it <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie11" alt=":rolleyes:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> But what the hey.</p><p><br /></p><p>No one in this thread, at least that I could see, ever questioned or disputed that PCGS Jeffs bring higher prices than same grade NGC Jeffs. That was not the question and really has nothing to do what was being discussed. But since you brought it up, in looking at the Numismedia prices listed on Heritage, Numismedia does value PCGS slabbed coins higher than those slabbed by NGC.</p><p><br /></p><p>The question, and the topic being discussed was about which price guide to use, which price guide was closer to reality. You claimed that Elijah should ignore the advice given by BU, and instead suggested that Elijah should use the PCGS price guide instead of using the Numismedia guide as BU suggested.</p><p><br /></p><p>You say you spot checked. OK, here's a few links - </p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=1172&lotNo=7789" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=1172&lotNo=7789" rel="nofollow">http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=1172&lotNo=7789</a></p><p><a href="http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=1172&lotNo=7789" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=1172&lotNo=7789" rel="nofollow"><br /></a></p><p><a href="http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=131130&lotNo=22754" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=131130&lotNo=22754" rel="nofollow">http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=131130&lotNo=22754</a></p><p><a href="http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=131130&lotNo=22754" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=131130&lotNo=22754" rel="nofollow"><br /></a></p><p><a href="http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=131152&lotNo=27479" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=131152&lotNo=27479" rel="nofollow">http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=131152&lotNo=27479</a></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Now in looking at those in seems to me that the PCGS price guide is just a tad off from reality.</p><p><br /></p><p>coin #1 =- 1954-S/D MS66</p><p><br /></p><p>Numismedia NGC value - $465</p><p>Numismedia PCGS value - $485</p><p>PCGS guide - $2500</p><p><br /></p><p>actual realized sales price - $632</p><p><br /></p><p>coin #2 1954 MS66</p><p><br /></p><p>Numismedia NGC value - $11</p><p>Numismedia PCGS value - $11</p><p>PCGS guide - $210</p><p><br /></p><p>actual realized sales price - $79</p><p><br /></p><p>coin #3 1959-D MS66</p><p><br /></p><p>Numismedia NGC value - $29</p><p>Numismedia PCGS value - $31</p><p>PCGS guide - $115</p><p><br /></p><p>actual realized sales price - $53</p><p><br /></p><p>Now, as I have said more times than I could ever count, my advice is to completely ignore all of the price guides except for the Grey Sheet. And even then to only use the Grey Sheet as a "guide".</p><p><br /></p><p>But your advice Paul, to a YN, was to use the PCGS price guide instead of using the Numismedia guide. Your advice was to - "not to take advice from a guy who hates slabbed coins". In other words, because he doesn't like slabbed coins his advice on which price guide to use is no good.</p><p><br /></p><p>Well, I dunno Paul, but it looks to me like your advice to a YN about which price guide to use (coming from a guy who not only likes slabbed coins but one that also collects Jefferson nickels) to use the PCGS price guide, is far, far, worse advice than that given by the guy who doesn't like slabbed coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>It seems to me that the Numismedia guide, even though its prices are really no good, is one heck of a lot closer to reality than the PCGS price guide is. Even for PCGS slabbed coins. It seems to me that you are the one he should not be listening to.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 1510593, member: 112"]Ya know, sometimes I wonder if it's even worth it :rolleyes: But what the hey. No one in this thread, at least that I could see, ever questioned or disputed that PCGS Jeffs bring higher prices than same grade NGC Jeffs. That was not the question and really has nothing to do what was being discussed. But since you brought it up, in looking at the Numismedia prices listed on Heritage, Numismedia does value PCGS slabbed coins higher than those slabbed by NGC. The question, and the topic being discussed was about which price guide to use, which price guide was closer to reality. You claimed that Elijah should ignore the advice given by BU, and instead suggested that Elijah should use the PCGS price guide instead of using the Numismedia guide as BU suggested. You say you spot checked. OK, here's a few links - [URL="http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=1172&lotNo=7789"]http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=1172&lotNo=7789 [/URL] [URL="http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=131130&lotNo=22754"]http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=131130&lotNo=22754 [/URL] [URL]http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=131152&lotNo=27479[/URL] Now in looking at those in seems to me that the PCGS price guide is just a tad off from reality. coin #1 =- 1954-S/D MS66 Numismedia NGC value - $465 Numismedia PCGS value - $485 PCGS guide - $2500 actual realized sales price - $632 coin #2 1954 MS66 Numismedia NGC value - $11 Numismedia PCGS value - $11 PCGS guide - $210 actual realized sales price - $79 coin #3 1959-D MS66 Numismedia NGC value - $29 Numismedia PCGS value - $31 PCGS guide - $115 actual realized sales price - $53 Now, as I have said more times than I could ever count, my advice is to completely ignore all of the price guides except for the Grey Sheet. And even then to only use the Grey Sheet as a "guide". But your advice Paul, to a YN, was to use the PCGS price guide instead of using the Numismedia guide. Your advice was to - "not to take advice from a guy who hates slabbed coins". In other words, because he doesn't like slabbed coins his advice on which price guide to use is no good. Well, I dunno Paul, but it looks to me like your advice to a YN about which price guide to use (coming from a guy who not only likes slabbed coins but one that also collects Jefferson nickels) to use the PCGS price guide, is far, far, worse advice than that given by the guy who doesn't like slabbed coins. It seems to me that the Numismedia guide, even though its prices are really no good, is one heck of a lot closer to reality than the PCGS price guide is. Even for PCGS slabbed coins. It seems to me that you are the one he should not be listening to.[/QUOTE]
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