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<p>[QUOTE="Sunbird, post: 8097761, member: 116324"]Right, I agree with most of what you wrote. I agree that you have to be a bad person to pull this, or at least a distinctive, atypical person. Normal people would never do it without a specific and huge reason, like complying with kidnappers who have their kids and who for some reason want them to dump packages...</p><p><br /></p><p>But this isn't about thinking "If I was an employee, I wouldn't be stealing all these packages". For one thing, it's not going to be detached reflection on one's behavior, and trying to explain it. That would be ridiculous, especially the "If I was an employee..." part. Being a contractor is going to be a chronic category that will influence countless interactions with the company and customers. It's probably different for a driver, but in an office job you're going to be reminded that you're a contractor all the time, with lots of company meetings that you're excluded from, and various other exclusions and reminders of your status as "not one of us".</p><p><br /></p><p>There are all sorts of shaping experiences that employees have, from explicit "team building" razzle dazzle to more subtle cues – contractors won't have any of that. So there's less inherent resistance to doing bad things. It comes down to given person's range of possible behaviors being shifted a bit one way or the other over time. If you imagine 10,000 people and all their behavioral limits, making half of them contractors might nudge 11 or something into package dumping territory, maybe a few years in. They won't say "If I was an employee..." They'll say "f*&$% those guys" or something.</p><p><br /></p><p>Sometimes you see it with union guys too – their hatred of management or the company can be so intense that you'll never encounter any fiercer hatred in a normal human lifespan. Jeep workers actually sabotaged Jeep vehicles in the 1980s, when they were AMC. In Arizona, the copper company I worked a summer with was incredibly intense with union hatred. Humans have an amazing ability to see themselves as victims, completely independent of any underlying reality, and some victim ideologies enable people to rationalize anything. Lots of mail and packages have been dumped by disgruntled or indifferent workers. They caught it on camera in Chicago once – it was 60 Minutes or 20/20, with the USPS.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Sunbird, post: 8097761, member: 116324"]Right, I agree with most of what you wrote. I agree that you have to be a bad person to pull this, or at least a distinctive, atypical person. Normal people would never do it without a specific and huge reason, like complying with kidnappers who have their kids and who for some reason want them to dump packages... But this isn't about thinking "If I was an employee, I wouldn't be stealing all these packages". For one thing, it's not going to be detached reflection on one's behavior, and trying to explain it. That would be ridiculous, especially the "If I was an employee..." part. Being a contractor is going to be a chronic category that will influence countless interactions with the company and customers. It's probably different for a driver, but in an office job you're going to be reminded that you're a contractor all the time, with lots of company meetings that you're excluded from, and various other exclusions and reminders of your status as "not one of us". There are all sorts of shaping experiences that employees have, from explicit "team building" razzle dazzle to more subtle cues – contractors won't have any of that. So there's less inherent resistance to doing bad things. It comes down to given person's range of possible behaviors being shifted a bit one way or the other over time. If you imagine 10,000 people and all their behavioral limits, making half of them contractors might nudge 11 or something into package dumping territory, maybe a few years in. They won't say "If I was an employee..." They'll say "f*&$% those guys" or something. Sometimes you see it with union guys too – their hatred of management or the company can be so intense that you'll never encounter any fiercer hatred in a normal human lifespan. Jeep workers actually sabotaged Jeep vehicles in the 1980s, when they were AMC. In Arizona, the copper company I worked a summer with was incredibly intense with union hatred. Humans have an amazing ability to see themselves as victims, completely independent of any underlying reality, and some victim ideologies enable people to rationalize anything. Lots of mail and packages have been dumped by disgruntled or indifferent workers. They caught it on camera in Chicago once – it was 60 Minutes or 20/20, with the USPS.[/QUOTE]
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