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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 1887747, member: 112&quot;]That&#039;s because there are many different ways of harsh cleaning and they don&#039;t all have the same tell tale signs. Light scratches and hairlines are merely 1 indicator that a coin has been harshly cleaned. And, it is important to note that it depends on the coin as to what those other indicators might be.</p><p><br /></p><p>As Tom mentioned above, some EF coins may or may not be designated as having been harshly/improperly cleaned - and it is important to note that there is a difference between harshly and improperly but they both end in the same result, a harshly cleaned designation - simply because they &quot;look wrong&quot;. </p><p><br /></p><p>Another indicator can be the quality of, or the remaining amount of, luster on a coin as compared to the amount of wear, or lack of wear, that a given coin has. This is a bit harder to discern because of the level of experience it requires to do so. In other words you have to be extremely familiar with how much luster, and where it is, a particular denomination and series should have given the amount of or lack of wear that the coin has.</p><p><br /></p><p>And, you should always remember that the TPGs are somewhat arbitrary with the harsh cleaning designation. Meaning that they will give it on a coin one time and on the next submission of the exact same coin they won&#039;t give it.</p><p><br /></p><p>And, on some coins the TPGs are much more lenient, for various reasons, regarding the harsh cleaning designation. They will let some coins slide and other coins not even though they have the same indicators.</p><p><br /></p><p>Bottom line, there&#039;s a lot to know regarding harsh/improper cleaning. And if you don&#039;t know it then the TPGs actions may not make sense to you.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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