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<p>[QUOTE="-jeffB, post: 1182835, member: 27832"]As detailed at great length in <a href="http://www.cointalk.com/t172193/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.cointalk.com/t172193/">this thread</a>, last month I bought a 1920-S Walker from eBay that turned out to be fake. In fact, it turned out that the seller had been moving quite a few counterfeits on eBay, and he got banhammered for it. I got my money back, eBay didn't require me to return the coin, and everything seemed settled.</p><p><br /></p><p>This evening, I got an email from the seller:</p><p><br /></p><p><font size="5"><b>HI:</b></font></p><p><font size="5"><b>Have not received my coin back yet. Send tracking number</b></font></p><p><font size="5"><b>Rich</b></font></p><p><br /></p><p>(Big, bold text is just as it appeared in the email.)</p><p><br /></p><p>Now, at this point, I figure I have several options. I can:</p><p><br /></p><blockquote>1) Return the counterfeit to him. I got my money back, he should get his merchandise back.</p><p><br /></p><blockquote><p>1a) Deface the coin, then return it to him.</p></blockquote> 2) Ignore him.</p><p><br /></p><p>3) Tell him to go pound sand.</p><p><br /></p><blockquote><p>3a) Explain to him that there's no way I'm going to supply him with a counterfeit coin that he's just going to turn around and pass off on someone else.</p><p><br /></p><p>3b) In the spirit of his last eBay message to me -- "Do what you want, I have all your emails on how you loved the coin and will buy all I have plus positive feedback" -- tell him to "Do what you want, I have my money back and you've been kicked off eBay."</p><p><br /></p><p>3c) Just tell him to take it up with eBay. (Since he's been kicked off, I assume that will be equivalent to talking to a brick wall.)</p></blockquote> 4) Since he tried to get me to settle for a partial refund, offer him a partial return. "I'll send you a plastic dime."</p><p><br /></p><p>5) Send him a counterfeit tracking number.</p><p><br /></p><p>6) Send him a clad Kennedy, and when he complains, point out that he's fifty cents ahead. If pressed, ask him whether he wants to go to court to reclaim his illegal merchandise.</blockquote><p></p><p>It <i>is</i> tempting to mess with this guy, but I find that I really don't want to antagonize him -- I just want to ignore him. I do think I'll contact eBay customer support for advice, but I'm pretty sure they'll confirm that I'm under no obligation to return the coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>I'm still wrestling with the ethical issue -- am I holding on to the coin to keep him from passing it off on someone else, or do I just want to have an impressive counterfeit for show and tell? It's not black and white. But returning the coin really feels like the wrong thing to do.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="-jeffB, post: 1182835, member: 27832"]As detailed at great length in [URL="http://www.cointalk.com/t172193/"]this thread[/URL], last month I bought a 1920-S Walker from eBay that turned out to be fake. In fact, it turned out that the seller had been moving quite a few counterfeits on eBay, and he got banhammered for it. I got my money back, eBay didn't require me to return the coin, and everything seemed settled. This evening, I got an email from the seller: [SIZE="5"][B]HI: Have not received my coin back yet. Send tracking number Rich[/B][/SIZE] (Big, bold text is just as it appeared in the email.) Now, at this point, I figure I have several options. I can: [INDENT]1) Return the counterfeit to him. I got my money back, he should get his merchandise back. [INDENT]1a) Deface the coin, then return it to him.[/INDENT] 2) Ignore him. 3) Tell him to go pound sand. [INDENT]3a) Explain to him that there's no way I'm going to supply him with a counterfeit coin that he's just going to turn around and pass off on someone else. 3b) In the spirit of his last eBay message to me -- "Do what you want, I have all your emails on how you loved the coin and will buy all I have plus positive feedback" -- tell him to "Do what you want, I have my money back and you've been kicked off eBay." 3c) Just tell him to take it up with eBay. (Since he's been kicked off, I assume that will be equivalent to talking to a brick wall.)[/INDENT] 4) Since he tried to get me to settle for a partial refund, offer him a partial return. "I'll send you a plastic dime." 5) Send him a counterfeit tracking number. 6) Send him a clad Kennedy, and when he complains, point out that he's fifty cents ahead. If pressed, ask him whether he wants to go to court to reclaim his illegal merchandise.[/INDENT] It [I]is[/I] tempting to mess with this guy, but I find that I really don't want to antagonize him -- I just want to ignore him. I do think I'll contact eBay customer support for advice, but I'm pretty sure they'll confirm that I'm under no obligation to return the coin. I'm still wrestling with the ethical issue -- am I holding on to the coin to keep him from passing it off on someone else, or do I just want to have an impressive counterfeit for show and tell? It's not black and white. But returning the coin really feels like the wrong thing to do.[/QUOTE]
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