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<p>[QUOTE="Curtis, post: 8282788, member: 26430"]I've been answering often lately, so I wanted to skip one, but I can't let that prompt get 12-hour'd! (An interesting one, [USER=102653]@TuckHard[/USER] !)</p><p><br /></p><p>Here's one that's been a matter of some dispute since I think as early as Eckhel. Even for those who are certain the monogram types are of Brutus (for the monogram staters I think the metallurgy is pretty strong evidence), they still really don't know for sure who "Koson" would be (there are hypotheses).</p><p><br /></p><p>Others believe they are nothing more than imitations of Roman Republican coins by the Getae or other Dacian or Danubian tribes. (Perhaps so for the non-monogram AV Staters.) Or, just... who knows? Some people who hoarded gold for the mountain god?</p><p><br /></p><p>Some people don't even believe the <i>silver </i>ones are ancient at all.</p><p><br /></p><p>But RPC has now finally accepted them, and I think the die and metallurgy evidence is strong. They're just all from one find c. 2003, maybe 85 of them. And were all struck with reverse die “Type b” (Hourmouziadis 2010), previously known only from a single example in the AV Stater (Dima <i>et al. </i>2007, no. 145, as illustrated in Hourmouziadis 2010: P. 294, Fig 3a):</p><p><br /></p><blockquote><p><font face="Georgia">All of them were struck with the same pair of dies. These dies are A / b. Such a combination was found only in a single specimen of the Târsa (1996) treasure (Dima <i>et al. </i>2007 [<i>sic (?)</i>, <i>Dima et al. 2004?</i>]). This would indicate that the reverse die was primarily used for minting silver drachmae.</font></p></blockquote><p><br /></p><p>It would be hard to fake 85 coins based on a die known only from a single specimen (held by a museum)!</p><p><br /></p><p>The Brutus-Koson-Skythia-Dacia-Olbia-or-are-they-all-modern-forgeries AR Drachm:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1463004[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>And the AV Stater (monogram type) that goes with it</p><p>[ATTACH]1463003[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>A couple others in thumbnail (Olbia vs. Parion Drachm; Eythrae vs. Herakleia Hekte)</p><p>[ATTACH]1463005[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]1463006[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><font size="5"><b>NEXT: A coin that appeared in multiple metals</b> (or at least series of very similar coins, AE, AR, AV, BI, EL, PB, and/or Other, any two or more; you don't have to post both, but please tell, cuz I'm curious about those!)</font>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Curtis, post: 8282788, member: 26430"]I've been answering often lately, so I wanted to skip one, but I can't let that prompt get 12-hour'd! (An interesting one, [USER=102653]@TuckHard[/USER] !) Here's one that's been a matter of some dispute since I think as early as Eckhel. Even for those who are certain the monogram types are of Brutus (for the monogram staters I think the metallurgy is pretty strong evidence), they still really don't know for sure who "Koson" would be (there are hypotheses). Others believe they are nothing more than imitations of Roman Republican coins by the Getae or other Dacian or Danubian tribes. (Perhaps so for the non-monogram AV Staters.) Or, just... who knows? Some people who hoarded gold for the mountain god? Some people don't even believe the [I]silver [/I]ones are ancient at all. But RPC has now finally accepted them, and I think the die and metallurgy evidence is strong. They're just all from one find c. 2003, maybe 85 of them. And were all struck with reverse die “Type b” (Hourmouziadis 2010), previously known only from a single example in the AV Stater (Dima [I]et al. [/I]2007, no. 145, as illustrated in Hourmouziadis 2010: P. 294, Fig 3a): [INDENT][FONT=Georgia]All of them were struck with the same pair of dies. These dies are A / b. Such a combination was found only in a single specimen of the Târsa (1996) treasure (Dima [I]et al. [/I]2007 [[I]sic (?)[/I], [I]Dima et al. 2004?[/I]]). This would indicate that the reverse die was primarily used for minting silver drachmae.[/FONT][/INDENT] It would be hard to fake 85 coins based on a die known only from a single specimen (held by a museum)! The Brutus-Koson-Skythia-Dacia-Olbia-or-are-they-all-modern-forgeries AR Drachm: [ATTACH=full]1463004[/ATTACH] And the AV Stater (monogram type) that goes with it [ATTACH]1463003[/ATTACH] A couple others in thumbnail (Olbia vs. Parion Drachm; Eythrae vs. Herakleia Hekte) [ATTACH]1463005[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]1463006[/ATTACH] [SIZE=5][B]NEXT: A coin that appeared in multiple metals[/B] (or at least series of very similar coins, AE, AR, AV, BI, EL, PB, and/or Other, any two or more; you don't have to post both, but please tell, cuz I'm curious about those!)[/SIZE][/QUOTE]
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