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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;TuckHard, post: 8246604, member: 102653&quot;]12 hours but how about a <i>lack </i>of bureaucracy?</p><p><br /></p><p>This coin was recovered from the Musi River of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palembang" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palembang" rel="nofollow">Palembang</a>, the principal port and center of political power of Sumatra for most of history. This is a Sumatran private trade coin which most interestingly copies a Japanese private trade coin, which is itself copying an official Chinese cash coin minted under the Ming Dynasty ruler <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hongwu_Emperor" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hongwu_Emperor" rel="nofollow">Emperor Hongwu</a>. I don&#039;t know if Hongwu would be honored his legacy lived on another few centuries or insulted that his royal issue was so crudely copied and degraded for the profits of merchants.</p><p><br /></p><p style="text-align: center">[ATTACH=full]1452225[/ATTACH] </p> <p style="text-align: center">Sumatran Private Trade Coin</p> <p style="text-align: center">c. 1570-1640 AD</p> <p style="text-align: center">Tin Cash | 0.68 grams</p> <p style="text-align: center">Obv: Hong Wu Tong Bao</p> <p style="text-align: center">Rev: Blank</p> <p style="text-align: center">Ref: Unlisted in GCC, Z#<a href="https://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=198747" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=198747" rel="nofollow">198747</a></p> <p style="text-align: center"><br /></p> <p style="text-align: center"><br /></p><p>I am missing the Japanese copy (see Z#<a href="https://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=192734" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=192734" rel="nofollow">192734</a>) but I do have an official Chinese cash which inspired the Japanese and Sumatran imitations (others were also cast in Vietnam). This example below was also found in the Musi River of Palembang.</p><p><br /></p><p style="text-align: center">[ATTACH=full]1452226[/ATTACH] </p> <p style="text-align: center">Ming Dynasty of China</p> <p style="text-align: center">Emperor Hongwu</p> <p style="text-align: center">1368-1398 AD</p> <p style="text-align: center">AE Cash | 2.83 grams | 24mm wide</p> <p style="text-align: center">Obv: Hong Wu Tong Bao</p> <p style="text-align: center">Rev: Blank</p> <p style="text-align: center">Ref: Hartill #20.57</p> <p style="text-align: center"><br /></p> <p style="text-align: center"><br /></p><p>Next: Another imitation coin, preferably with the prototype[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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