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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;taxisteve929, post: 1300896, member: 34222&quot;]LOL...I never attended, but figured that one out when collecting the fakes. Just makes the most sense. There are several dozen styles and designs of counterfeits....but only a few of the genuine pieces. Rather than first learn the hundred or 200 different counterfeit die varieties of halfpence, it just made much more sense to first learn the few genuine....down to very fine details. Of course, with modern coins and counterfeiters, it is much more scientific than we were at collecting the 18th century counterfeits. I&#039;m not sure if it is Bill Fivaz? I&#039;m sorry if I misspelled his name. I believe he wrote a popular book years ago on the subject, and it included altered coins. I know that with gold and silver, an easy test to perform is specific gravity, and that does tell you something. As far as expensive collector coins that have been counterfeited....thats a different animal than I collect. I find those fakes, many coming out of the east, amoung other areas (if you look back to the 60&#039;s, most of the collector coins being counterfeited were not coming out of China...but it escapes me where they were often being brought in from) very depressing. A fear we had in the goups who collect counterfeits is that with the premiums attached to them, it won&#039;t be long before you start seeing counterfeits of contemporary counterfeits. All of this fear is because I want to see the next generation be able to fall in love with the same hobby I did. To be able to hold in their hands the same coins I now do, and think of the history behind those coins. When he or she holds that 1804 Cent, I want him to feel the history. Feel what the young boy or girl must have felt holding that coin. Or the adult, with Thomas Jefferson, now president of the infant United States, and reading that on the 1 cent piece, wondering if this new country would last. Wondering if we would lean towards a relationship with France or England. When that kid holds a cheap British half penny that was made into a toy by drilling holes in it (whirligig) I want to see that boy or girl try to make it spin and understand first hand the difference between what we have for toys today and what our forefathers made for their children from what they had. Yep. The Chinese fakes scare me, and hopefully, the ANA, which is the only club large enough, will do what they can to pressure the country to act on preventing these from entering the country. Tough to do with our current economy, but I really hope it can be stopped. Now I REALLY have to run!!!&lt;s&gt; All the best!! steve[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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