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<p>[QUOTE="Hoky77, post: 7782024, member: 97374"][ATTACH=full]1335235[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1335236[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>The pictures are the photography of Mr. David Poliquin.</p><p><br /></p><p>For obvious reasons to be disclosed, this 1858 Small Letter is my favorite. I acquired this 1858 Small Letter on eBay as, in my opinion, a higher grade coin based on my willingness to to buy a coin that was represented by very poor photos but through the fuzziness showed some traits of a better grade. When I received the coin </p><p>I was rewarded for taking the chance. As a variety enthusiast I examined the coin closely and found it resembled a Snow 10 with some differences that I thought could be attributed to a later die state. It is at this point I want to acknowledge the knowledge and help of Mr. David Poliquin. It is easiest now to post my email conversation with Mr. Poliquin:</p><p><br /></p><p>Me to David:</p><p><br /></p><p>First a question about the doubling of the date on this coin. Rick Snow attributes the variety as a DDO for the S's in STATES with no mention of doubling of the date. It seems to be excessive to be a RPD so I am assuming it is machine doubling which is something I don't recall seeing in a Indian Cent date. I also admit to struggling with differentiating between double die errors and machine doubling. Also, I am curious to know when the repunching of a date occurs. I assume it could be on both a new die or one that is being refurbished.</p><p><br /></p><p> I believe this is a Snow-10 at a later die state than what is in Rick's Guide. It has developed a die crack from the rim, through OF into the wing tip and the doubling at the date.</p><p><br /></p><p>Mr. Poliquins answer:</p><p><br /></p><p>Hello Paul,</p><p><br /></p><p>This example is not from the Snow 10 Die Pairing, based on the date position. The (S)TATE(S) are not the result of hub doubling, but rather the product of reworking of the working dies. These letters break on the working hub and reworked on the working dies. The Snow 10 Die Pairing only exhibits hub doubling on the reverse.</p><p><br /></p><p>In regard to the date anomalies, I would concur with you that the doubling is a result of machine induced doubling rather than genuine repunching.</p><p><br /></p><p>Date repunching occurs when the date is impressed into a finished working die and an unfavorable date position is initially achieved. The date position is then corrected (which is correctly referred to as date repunching) and impressed more heavily than the initial date impression(s).</p><p><br /></p><p>Your example does not exhibit a die crack from 'OF'. This is just a scratch.</p><p><br /></p><p>I do suspect that the reverse of your coin exhibits hub doubling, so you are more than welcome to submit it for me examine more closely.</p><p><br /></p><p>This correspondence and submission was early in my interest of die varieties and was instrumental in my becoming a avid enthusiast. As a older IHC collector who has completed his set this gave me a needed new direction in the hobby. Although I did notice the discrepancy's in the attribution of the Snow-10 pertaining to this coin and I am thankful for Mr. Poliquins credit to me for the discovery , I want to credit Mr. Poliquin with the discovery in that he attributed the nuances I missed that make this coin the 1858-SL, Poliquin-3.</p><p><br /></p><p style="text-align: center">Link To:</p><p><br /></p><p><font size="4"><b><a href="http://www.indiancentvarieties.com/1858SLT3_variety003.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.indiancentvarieties.com/1858SLT3_variety003.html" rel="nofollow">1858 Small Letters Type III Reverse Variety 3</a></b></font></p><p><font size="4"></font>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Hoky77, post: 7782024, member: 97374"][ATTACH=full]1335235[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1335236[/ATTACH] The pictures are the photography of Mr. David Poliquin. For obvious reasons to be disclosed, this 1858 Small Letter is my favorite. I acquired this 1858 Small Letter on eBay as, in my opinion, a higher grade coin based on my willingness to to buy a coin that was represented by very poor photos but through the fuzziness showed some traits of a better grade. When I received the coin I was rewarded for taking the chance. As a variety enthusiast I examined the coin closely and found it resembled a Snow 10 with some differences that I thought could be attributed to a later die state. It is at this point I want to acknowledge the knowledge and help of Mr. David Poliquin. It is easiest now to post my email conversation with Mr. Poliquin: Me to David: First a question about the doubling of the date on this coin. Rick Snow attributes the variety as a DDO for the S's in STATES with no mention of doubling of the date. It seems to be excessive to be a RPD so I am assuming it is machine doubling which is something I don't recall seeing in a Indian Cent date. I also admit to struggling with differentiating between double die errors and machine doubling. Also, I am curious to know when the repunching of a date occurs. I assume it could be on both a new die or one that is being refurbished. I believe this is a Snow-10 at a later die state than what is in Rick's Guide. It has developed a die crack from the rim, through OF into the wing tip and the doubling at the date. Mr. Poliquins answer: Hello Paul, This example is not from the Snow 10 Die Pairing, based on the date position. The (S)TATE(S) are not the result of hub doubling, but rather the product of reworking of the working dies. These letters break on the working hub and reworked on the working dies. The Snow 10 Die Pairing only exhibits hub doubling on the reverse. In regard to the date anomalies, I would concur with you that the doubling is a result of machine induced doubling rather than genuine repunching. Date repunching occurs when the date is impressed into a finished working die and an unfavorable date position is initially achieved. The date position is then corrected (which is correctly referred to as date repunching) and impressed more heavily than the initial date impression(s). Your example does not exhibit a die crack from 'OF'. This is just a scratch. I do suspect that the reverse of your coin exhibits hub doubling, so you are more than welcome to submit it for me examine more closely. This correspondence and submission was early in my interest of die varieties and was instrumental in my becoming a avid enthusiast. As a older IHC collector who has completed his set this gave me a needed new direction in the hobby. Although I did notice the discrepancy's in the attribution of the Snow-10 pertaining to this coin and I am thankful for Mr. Poliquins credit to me for the discovery , I want to credit Mr. Poliquin with the discovery in that he attributed the nuances I missed that make this coin the 1858-SL, Poliquin-3. [CENTER]Link To:[/CENTER] [SIZE=4][B][URL='http://www.indiancentvarieties.com/1858SLT3_variety003.html']1858 Small Letters Type III Reverse Variety 3[/URL][/B] [/SIZE][/QUOTE]
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