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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Orielensis, post: 4904422, member: 96898&quot;][USER=115209]@steve 5[/USER] , welcome to CoinTalk! You&#039;ve certainly shown us a fascinating historical artifact and made a great metal detector find. Congratulations on that. Unfortunately, the item you&#039;ve shown is way out of my field of expertise. I&#039;m collecting Central European medieval coins and also dabble in ancients, but I know next to nothing about US coinage and absolutely nothing about Civil War artifacts. The same will apply to most others here in the ancients forum. My suggestion would be to post your find over in the CoinTalk US forum, where I&#039;m certain you&#039;ll find knowlegeable people enthusiastic about this piece.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Thank you very much for the kind words – I very much appreciate them. Also, please show your coins should you have pictures at hand! It&#039;s always good to see what other medieval collectors are interested in. </p><p><br /></p><p>Forgive me if I take the revival of this thread as an oportunity to add some more bracteates to it. First, here is a very early Habsburg dynasty coin from Switzerland – it&#039;s unusual to see Saint Maurice on a coin that&#039;s not from Mageburg:</p><p><font size="3">[ATTACH=full]1183122[/ATTACH] </font></p><p><font size="3">Zofingen (Habsburg mint, under the Counts of Frohburg), bracteate penny (&quot;vierzipfliger Pfennig&quot;), ca. 1285–1300 AD. Obv: ZOVI; male frontal bust (St. Maurice?) flanked by two stars, crescent above. Rev: negative design. 18mm . Ref: Berger 2445–6; Slg. Wüthrich 134–5; HMZ I–149a.</font></p><p><font size="3"><br /></font></p><p><font size="4">Secondly, here is a late medieval Thuringian <i>hohlpfennig</i>. I like the jumping fish. Also note the legend on the edge:</font></p><p><font size="3">[ATTACH=full]1183120[/ATTACH] </font></p><p><font size="4"><font size="3">Saalfeld, City, AR hohlpfennig, after 1448 AD. Obv: two jumping fish flanked by S-S; three pellets above; legend on the rim: +SALVELD. Rev: negative design (bracteate). 19mm, 0.36g. Ref: Posern-Klett 758; Slg. Bonhoff 1160.</font></font></p><p><font size="4"><br /></font></p><p><font size="4">And, for a change, something from Hungary. The three conjoined faces are an interesting design. Also, Bela IV is the Hungarian king who in 1241 had to face the Mongol invasion of Europe:</font></p><p><font size="4">[ATTACH=full]1183121[/ATTACH] </font></p><p><font size="4"><font size="3">Kingdom of Hungary, under Bela IV (or Bela III?), AR bracteate denár, 1235–1270 AD (or 1172–1196 AD?). Obv: BE-LA REX; three bearded heads in a triangle. Obv: negative design (bracteate). 15mm, 0.28g. Ref: Huszár 200.</font></font>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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