Flan cracks

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Paul M., Feb 20, 2017.

  1. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    Normally I avoid coins with flan cracks. But, I do have a couple in my VCoins watch list because they're fairly scarce types, and waiting around for another with similar amounts of detail would take years.

    Do you own any cracked coins? How much would you discount a cracked coin vs one that is not, ceteris paribus? The particular coin I am looking at is cracked from the edge to nearly the center of the flan.

    Advice is appreciated. Also, feel free to post your cracked coins, if you like. :)
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  3. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Supporter! Supporter

    This one is very scarce. Moreover, the crack isn't very big. Were I to wait for an uncracked one to come up for sale, I'd have to wait years.
    Faustina Jr VENVS FELIX denarius.jpg

    Cracks in Sestertii are pretty common, too.
    Faustina Sr AVGVSTA Vesta Sestertius.jpg
  4. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    Because coins of Gallienus are fairly grotty, this Pegasus was definitely an upgrade and the crack does not bother me.
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  5. Theodosius

    Theodosius Fine Style Seeker

    That is a nice Gallienus Pish!
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  6. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Yes, I have coins with cracked flans, but, hey, everyone knows I'm a budget collector. I don't have a problem with flan cracks as long as the coin appears stable and not likely to break at the crack.
    Hadrian 6.jpg
    AE Sestertius
    OBVERSE: HADRIANVS AVGVSTVS P P, laureate bust right, draped far shoulder
    REVERSE: HILARITAS P R S-C, COS III in ex, Hilaritas standing facing holding palm & cornucopia, two small children flanking her
    Struck at Rome, 128-134AD
    25.30g, 35mm
    RIC 970
  7. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    That's part of my potential issue with the coin I'm considering. The crack goes halfway through the coin. I don't have it in hand, so it's hard for me to say if it appears stable or not. I think it's probably okay if it's 100% good metal, but if it's crystallized at all, then it could be a problem.
  8. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    Have you asked the seller?
  9. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    I have several cracked coins. I think 1 or 2 are a bit severe, but the rest are fairly minor and don't bother me much.
  10. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Here is one with a crack, but it was definitely not a budget coin. The crack almost looks strategically placed to avoid major elements of the coin.

    vespasian ric 544.jpg
  11. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I really do not pay a lot of attention to cracks. I really do not have any that I can see that are problems. I have a few splits and chips... would those be considered Flan Cracks?

    Samnium Aesernia AE21 263-240 BCE HN Italy 430 Vulcan - Biga Obv-Rev.JPG
    Samnium Aesernia AE21 263-240 BCE HN Italy 430 Vulcan - Biga
  12. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    As long as the cracks are minor and stable, I don't care

    This coin was test cut and has a tiny crack by the cut, but it's very stable. I don't regret buying it.
  13. Valentinian

    Valentinian Supporter! Supporter

    I think that, for a crack to be that long, the coin must be fragile and have been weak from the beginning. I have a few like that and am very concerned they will break. It is a big negative if a crack is long. Short cracks are a different matter, to me.
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  14. icerain

    icerain Mastir spellyr

    I dont have any with a cracked flan yet. As long as it doesn't detract from the design I feel its fine.
  15. Svarog

    Svarog Well-Known Member

    Personally, I don't buy cracked coins
  16. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    Cracks don't bother me at all. You mentioned chrystalized that completely different and stay away from.
    I even have a couple of broken coins that don't bother me because they don't take away from the portrait.
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  17. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    This is the only coin in my collection with the beginnings of a scary :eek: crack. Looking at it perhaps you can visualize how the little cracks at 11:30 & 6:00 could propagate across the coin. It's a beautiful coin but we don't handle this one.
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  18. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Supporter! Supporter

    A big percentage of my sestertius have a flan crack like the one below and does'nt bother me to much as I look at it as part of the originality of a 2000 year old coin, I would expect a discount of up to 20 percent if the crack went to the centre although the coin if lasted this long will probably be stable enough to last our life times. $_59.jpg $_58.jpg
  19. rrdenarius

    rrdenarius non omnibus dormio Supporter

    I do not worry about cracks that were formed during minting like the one on @Orfew 's Vespasian.
    I worry lots about cracks due to crystallization. I purchased an extremely nice RR denarius. It had one small spot on the edge where some metal was missing and underlying crystallization was visible. The coin broke when handled ruffly! Ouch, that did not feel good. I have a similar coin someone else broke the same way. Now I put crystallized coins in a holder like Cointains (I am not sure if that word is trademarked). I do not move them much. Plenty has been written on the subject here and elsewhere -
  20. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    If I were looking at two coins otherwise identical I would take the uncracked one unless the price were considerably lower. However, with ancients, we rarely have two coins identical but see more pairs that each have something better than the other. Below is my most recent badly cracked coin. Some would rather have another Commodus denarius but I'm happy to have this one. Chances are you won't find another exactly like it so you have to decide to love it or leave it. I'm keeping it.

    This Gordian sestertius was purchased because of, not in spite of the crack. I wanted a coin to demonstrate the word for a web page I was writing.
  21. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Flan cracks don't bother me at all. As a matter of fact, I won a coin today at auction which has a minor flan crack and it didn't affect my bid one bit.
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