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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;EWC3, post: 5285225, member: 93416&quot;]Interesting – perhaps something that could be chased up off group. For my own part I have had discussion about this with Wasserstein – who I felt was dismissive and alongside gave an incorrect account of dirhem weight (in line with Bates and Bacharach to name but a few). I also discussed it at length with Lutz Ilisch, who as ever was enormously helpful. Lutz cites a much earlier source – he wrote:</p><p><br /></p><p><i>“The earliest tradition about Sumayr is probably still in the Kitab&nbsp; </i></p><p><i>al-Kharaj of Abu-Yusuf Ya&#039;qub, a treatise on taxes composed at the end&nbsp; </i></p><p><i>of the 8th century.”</i></p><p><br /></p><p>[USER=93416][/USER]</p><p>I have two problems with this opinion</p><p><br /></p><p>1) its clearly incorrect – very few people “wish” this to be true - seems to be mostly Maqrizi, Fischel and myself.&nbsp; Almost the entire academic community – including Wasserstein, Ilisch and Alan’s anonymous chum - “wish” this to be false.</p><p><br /></p><p>2)&nbsp; Anyhow what people “wish” is irrelevant.&nbsp; The only important question is – where does the evidence point?</p><p><br /></p><p>Sadly nobody had a shot at my simple question –</p><p><br /></p><p><i>If Treadwell and Kassim get the dinar weight right and Maqrizi gets the relationship right – what does that make the dirhem weigh?</i></p><p><br /></p><p>so I will make it even simpler.</p><p><br /></p><p>If the dinar weighed 4.25g and Maqrizi says the weight ratio to the dirhem is 87:60 – what does Maqrizi say the dirhem weighed?&nbsp; Surely that is easy enough?</p><p><br /></p><p>Rob[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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