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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;EWC3, post: 5279132, member: 93416&quot;]Many thanks! A few questions follow, but first I think I should show what Maqrizi actually wrote about Sumayr - probably in 1405 AD. [Translation is by Allouche, “Mamluq Economics”, Salt Lake City, 1994]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1221011[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>To questions</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/members/96898/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/members/96898/">@Orielensis</a> Fischel cites the 1969 revised edition of the Fischel work. Is it possible you scanned from the earlier 1937 edition?</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/members/96898/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/members/96898/">@</a>+VGO.DVCKS two questions:</p><p><br /></p><p>(1) Alan DeShezo takes the orthodox line that Sumayr did not exist – but does he offer any evidence for that view? In particular is there anything specific in either linked piece supporting that position?</p><p><br /></p><p>On the Treadwell piece – an erudite effort of course but it never addresses what I take to be the key point - the important metrological reform – rather it gets lost in other details of the affair.</p><p><br /></p><p>On the Kassim piece – I judge that &quot;the dirhem must be 7/10 of the mithcal&quot; is not in itself a tenant of orthodox Islam. At least I have orthodox Muslim friends in London who reject it for a more scientific approach. However Kassim is writing in Malaysia, not London, where some people, it seems, think differently.</p><p><br /></p><p>(2) The second rather simpler question. If Treadwell and Kassim get the dinar weight right and Maqrizi gets the relationship right – what does that make the dirhem weigh?</p><p><br /></p><p>If you can get to a correct answer to (2) it might then lead us to interesting insights concerning what was going on in 699 AD, and also, what was going right in 1405 that is going wrong in 2020…….</p><p><br /></p><p>Rob T[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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