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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Insider, post: 3550327, member: 24314&quot;]I agree.&nbsp; Try to get &quot;slide marks&quot; on the relief and field next to the relief.&nbsp;&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>Now, I&#039;m going to disagree.&nbsp; IMO, the sooner folks stop throwing around the words &quot;harshly cleaned&quot; the better for all of us. </p><p><br /></p><p>Any abrasion to a coin leaves lines.&nbsp; Even a little hardly noticeable rub on the high points has microscopic lines.&nbsp; The lines from the type, amount, and severity of the abrasion look differently.&nbsp; It is a matter of degree.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>I have never seen &quot;slide marks&quot; put on a label before either!&nbsp; IMHO, it is <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie30" alt=":bucktooth:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />stupid!&nbsp; In the first place (by actual experimentation) it is extremely difficult for a plastic album slide to hurt a coin in a board.&nbsp; Even when chocolate cookie crumbs are inserted on top of the coin and the slide is worked. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie54" alt=":hungry:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />&nbsp; Silica etc. are more abrasive and it is possible that some impurity could get into the folder in such a way that a slide can cause a hairline but most coins are below the level of the slide on both sides.&nbsp; I have not been able to scratch a coin yet by trying (nothing out of the ordinary like dumping sand grains into the hole w/the coin).</p><p><br /></p><p>The big problem I see at every TPGS except for PCI (for our <span style="color: #b30000">Red Label</span> detail slabs we called things what they were: Polished, buffed, harshly cleaned, etc.) is they call any degree of abrasion: &quot;<b><span style="color: #660066">CLEANED</span></b>!&quot;&nbsp;&nbsp; This is pure crap to keep the collector dumb and the dealers happy.&nbsp; A polished coin is <span style="color: #b30000">NOT</span> cleaned.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>Additionally, <b><span style="color: #660066">ALL COINS WITH HAIRLINES ARE NOT CLEANED</span></b>!&nbsp;&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>At one time, I believed any hairlines on a coin indicated improper cleaning.&nbsp; I learned that is not the case.&nbsp; I have been trying to get the word &quot;hairlined&quot; used on labels for a coin such as this to no avail.&nbsp; IMO, this coin would qualify for that label.&nbsp; Note that the ANA Grading guide allows a MS-61 coin to have continuous hairlines (as this one) over its entire surface.&nbsp; When the hairlines get more pronounced than on this coin, then call it cleaned.&nbsp; That is still a long way from &quot;harshly cleaned.&quot;</p><p><br /></p><p>The most important thing is to recognize that the surfaces of this coin are both worn and no longer original.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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