FIRST STRIKE Lawsuits - Interesting Observation

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Silver Striker, Nov 16, 2006.

  1. Pepperoni

    Pepperoni Senior Member

    Strike

    Class actions are to get a feeling of being vindicated. Proceedes pay the lawyers. The govt. hands out fines and the problem usually stops. To some it is worth it, to others it is well.......... not justice , but JUST US !
     
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  3. dreamer94

    dreamer94 Coin Collector

    I was party to a class action lawsuit against American Express. Deep pockets! My share of the settlement was 40 cents. I saved the check as a souvenir. It wasn't even worth taking it to the bank to deposit it.

    Class action lawsuits mainly benefit the plaintiff's attorneys, although the attorneys will tell you that they serve an important deterrant function for bad behavior.
     
  4. bama guy

    bama guy Coin Hoarder

    until someone stops them, lots of peple will think that label makes them something special.
     
  5. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

    Like the Omaha Bank Hoard? :goofer: :D :goofer:

    ;)
    Ben
     
  6. mokanmike51

    mokanmike51 New Member

    The Only Real First Strike Is The Very First Coin Struck. So There Should Only Be One.
    Mike
     
  7. Silver Striker

    Silver Striker Senior Member

    I believe that someone around here said it best.

    "FIRST RELEASED"

    This would be a much more accurate term to use than "FIRST STRIKE".

    From what all I understand regarding the hobby, nearly all collectors would agree that the TPG'ers are misusing a general term used by collectors that referrs to coins first off the new die as "First Strikes". To what end? To confuse the newest collectors to the hobby and generate more bucks from the likes of The Coin Vault and others.

    I attended the Santa Clara coin show on Saturday and was surprised to see very few FIRST STRIKE encapsulated coins available. Also, I didn't see ONE SGS slabbed coin.

    BTW, the bulk of the slabbed items were by PCGS and NGC. I saw few ICG and ANACS products at the tables.
     
  8. NathansCoin

    NathansCoin New Member


    I agree
     
  9. bama guy

    bama guy Coin Hoarder

    Hey group please do not band me from the forum but i have two 70 buffalos gold coins One mint state and one proof. They are NGC certified and it say "fine first strikes." Technically it could mean about what you wanted it to. how many is strikes

    I not understand it when i bought it becouse that is the first certified coins i had ever bought, may be the last. did not understand it then and certainlly does not interest me now that i have learned a little bit.
     
  10. DJCoinz

    DJCoinz Majored in Morganology

    I've bought only one first strike coin -- a 2005 PCGS MS69 American Eagle.
     
  11. Pepperoni

    Pepperoni Senior Member

    Yea like were all perfect here

    We all have bought something with our emotions rather then thinking it through. Maybe one day there will be just a few of the "First Strike" coins and what will remain will become a collectors item.
     
  12. 09S-V.D.B

    09S-V.D.B Coin Hoarder

    Off the top of my head, I think the Buffalos were struck 4 or 5 times, so 'First Strikes' is technically correct. Edit: The Mint website says each is struck at least 3 times.

    And regarding the lawsuit mentioned by others, one problem is regarding damages. If sucessful in his/their case, how much in damages should the plaintiff/s be awarded?
     
  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    Not exactly, it says multiple times. All Proof coins are struck at least twice, that qualifies as multiple. We never know if it was more than twice, or just twice.
     
  14. Vroomer2

    Vroomer2 Active Member

    Same show, same day, same observation. :hail:

    I only recall one dealer with the Golden Buffalo coins that said that. I almost laughed at him. Had to bite my tounge.
     
  15. Vroomer2

    Vroomer2 Active Member

    Totally agree here.
     
  16. Pepperoni

    Pepperoni Senior Member

    If you struck one hundred coins each one time the first coin would be a first strike.
    If you stuck one hundred coins mutiple time the first coin would be a first strike.
    A proof is a manufacturing difference created to enhance the appearance of the coin. If dies for both proof and uncirculated coins are made from the same material , the proof die should fail at a determined rate of how many times the die is engauged compared to the uncirculated coin. Each die probably carries a different hardness depending on what it is creating and how much the mint is willing to pay for exotic die steel.
     
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