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<p>[QUOTE="usmc60, post: 2928111, member: 76739"]<a href="https://www.cointalk.com/members/fred-weinberg.86437/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/members/fred-weinberg.86437/">Fred Weinberg</a> </p><p>Sir it's apparent you're unaware of my situation. Sir I have dyslexia and I cannot spell I've had this all my life. I rely on voice recognition. And sometimes voice recognition does not recognize the words correctly. My mistake and I admit it I do don't check my words as often as I should, so words do get misspelled.</p><p><br /></p><p>And Sir it's quite apparent that you've never ran across some of these coins, which I find surprising over the many years that you been in business.</p><p><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/members/fred-weinberg.86437/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/members/fred-weinberg.86437/">Fred Weinberg</a> What's not surprising to me a big majority of people that are in this hobby have a limited understanding of the steel that is used to make dies.[ATTACH=full]710428[/ATTACH] And people that have work with hardened steel in their life have a little better understanding of what the steel is capable of and what is not.This is a basic understanding of dies that most people learn about.</p><p>I have found even the professionals know very little about steel. It's not part of the learning process in NUMISMATIC studies.Here's one little trivia fact the steel in dies actually gets harder the longer the die is in use. True or false.And another simple question what occurs when you have a hot planchet and cold steel what chemical reaction happens.</p><p><br /></p><p>Sir on occasion when I'm at breakfast on the weekend I like having a little fun. Let's just say I'll take one of these first hit planchet's, put it with three other quarters lay them on the counter and have an individual pick out the different quarter.</p><p>And 100% yes I said 100% of the time all individuals pick out the first hit quarter out of three.Since you your uncomfortable with first strike I will use first hit.</p><p>And Sir when the technician at the mint sets up a press with new dies. I would say the first 10 planchet struck out of this press would be considered cold Strike coins.</p><p>What I mean by this you have a new die. the machine just started up that die is still at whatever the ambient temperature is. Then you have a preheated planchet hot. These first coin struck her with a cold die, this is where the question comes up what happens when you have hot metal and cold metal what happens.</p><p>Sir this is where them first hit planchet's coins usually end up'[ATTACH=full]710429[/ATTACH] At the bottom of the pile. Sir I'm talking less than 10 coins out of thousands.Sir I totally agree with you when you're talking thousands of commercial coins, nothing special about them. But out of them thousands the first ones hit are the planchet's or coins that I'm talking about.</p><p>A extremely small amount of coinage. Because within the first minute to five minutes that press is up to operating temperatures. So it does not take long for a hot die and I hot planchet gives you the basic commercial coinage. And Sir with your knowledge you should know this.And like I said Mr. Weinberg coin world has had articles about this. That's what surprises me that you're not aware of this.</p><p>And Sir other members on this forum have found them just like the member up at the top of this thread with the Kennedy.</p><p><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/members/fred-weinberg.86437/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/members/fred-weinberg.86437/">Mr. Fred WeinbergSir I don't know what to say it's unfortunate that you have never come across one of these coins. But I myself have several. and it seems other members have some to. Sir they do exist.</a> USMC60[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="usmc60, post: 2928111, member: 76739"][URL='https://www.cointalk.com/members/fred-weinberg.86437/']Fred Weinberg[/URL] Sir it's apparent you're unaware of my situation. Sir I have dyslexia and I cannot spell I've had this all my life. I rely on voice recognition. And sometimes voice recognition does not recognize the words correctly. My mistake and I admit it I do don't check my words as often as I should, so words do get misspelled. And Sir it's quite apparent that you've never ran across some of these coins, which I find surprising over the many years that you been in business. [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/members/fred-weinberg.86437/']Fred Weinberg[/URL] What's not surprising to me a big majority of people that are in this hobby have a limited understanding of the steel that is used to make dies.[ATTACH=full]710428[/ATTACH] And people that have work with hardened steel in their life have a little better understanding of what the steel is capable of and what is not.This is a basic understanding of dies that most people learn about. I have found even the professionals know very little about steel. It's not part of the learning process in NUMISMATIC studies.Here's one little trivia fact the steel in dies actually gets harder the longer the die is in use. True or false.And another simple question what occurs when you have a hot planchet and cold steel what chemical reaction happens. Sir on occasion when I'm at breakfast on the weekend I like having a little fun. Let's just say I'll take one of these first hit planchet's, put it with three other quarters lay them on the counter and have an individual pick out the different quarter. And 100% yes I said 100% of the time all individuals pick out the first hit quarter out of three.Since you your uncomfortable with first strike I will use first hit. And Sir when the technician at the mint sets up a press with new dies. I would say the first 10 planchet struck out of this press would be considered cold Strike coins. What I mean by this you have a new die. the machine just started up that die is still at whatever the ambient temperature is. Then you have a preheated planchet hot. These first coin struck her with a cold die, this is where the question comes up what happens when you have hot metal and cold metal what happens. Sir this is where them first hit planchet's coins usually end up'[ATTACH=full]710429[/ATTACH] At the bottom of the pile. Sir I'm talking less than 10 coins out of thousands.Sir I totally agree with you when you're talking thousands of commercial coins, nothing special about them. But out of them thousands the first ones hit are the planchet's or coins that I'm talking about. A extremely small amount of coinage. Because within the first minute to five minutes that press is up to operating temperatures. So it does not take long for a hot die and I hot planchet gives you the basic commercial coinage. And Sir with your knowledge you should know this.And like I said Mr. Weinberg coin world has had articles about this. That's what surprises me that you're not aware of this. And Sir other members on this forum have found them just like the member up at the top of this thread with the Kennedy. [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/members/fred-weinberg.86437/']Mr. Fred WeinbergSir I don't know what to say it's unfortunate that you have never come across one of these coins. But I myself have several. and it seems other members have some to. Sir they do exist.[/URL] USMC60[/QUOTE]
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