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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 1093075, member: 112"]The quoted comment above was mine Jim, not Spock's. He was merely quoting me.</p><p><br /></p><p>So, if I understand your comments here correctly, you are suggesting that these coins with the red coloring, like the one I mentioned with the red coloring covering nearly the entire surface, you are suggesting that this coin is not .9999 pure. That somehow this one coin contains all or most of the impurities contained in a particular batch of coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>Small problem with that as I see it though. When gold is refined they do not start with 1.000 gold and add impurities to bring it to the desired fineness level. If they did I could possibly understand your scenario happening.</p><p><br /></p><p>What they do is start less than pure gold obtained from another refiner and then they continue to refine it. And with each step in the refining process more and more impurities are stripped away until they achieve a product with the desired fineness level. So there is no chance for a given portion of the melted metal to have a higher concentration of impurities than the rest of the batch.</p><p><br /></p><p>Sorry Jim, but your explanation just doesn't hold up. If it did, then some of these coins being sold as .9999 would not be .9999. Do you think the govts. of the world would risk such a thing happening ? If even a hint of coins being sold with less than specified fineness came out - nobody would ever buy that country's gold again.</p><p><br /></p><p>But let's take it a step farther, let's go back. 500 years ago, or longer, when other pure gold coins were being made. The person in charge of making those coins staked his very life on those coins being precisely the fineness they were supposed to be. And if those coins did not all, every single one, have the specified fineness either because of debasement or even accidental manufacture, then the person in charge of making those coins was executed.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now, do you really think people would take such risks as to have this coin here or that coin there turn out to be of a less than specified fineness ?</p><p><br /></p><p>And no, don't try and tell me that back then they did not have the technology to refine gold to modern levels of purity. They did. Even a thousand years ago they refine gold to any desired fineness they wished right down to 1/1000th of a percentage point. If they wanted .986 gold they could make it - exactly .986. If they wanted .930 gold they could make it, exactly .930.</p><p><br /></p><p>They had much more exacting standards back then than we do today.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 1093075, member: 112"]The quoted comment above was mine Jim, not Spock's. He was merely quoting me. So, if I understand your comments here correctly, you are suggesting that these coins with the red coloring, like the one I mentioned with the red coloring covering nearly the entire surface, you are suggesting that this coin is not .9999 pure. That somehow this one coin contains all or most of the impurities contained in a particular batch of coins. Small problem with that as I see it though. When gold is refined they do not start with 1.000 gold and add impurities to bring it to the desired fineness level. If they did I could possibly understand your scenario happening. What they do is start less than pure gold obtained from another refiner and then they continue to refine it. And with each step in the refining process more and more impurities are stripped away until they achieve a product with the desired fineness level. So there is no chance for a given portion of the melted metal to have a higher concentration of impurities than the rest of the batch. Sorry Jim, but your explanation just doesn't hold up. If it did, then some of these coins being sold as .9999 would not be .9999. Do you think the govts. of the world would risk such a thing happening ? If even a hint of coins being sold with less than specified fineness came out - nobody would ever buy that country's gold again. But let's take it a step farther, let's go back. 500 years ago, or longer, when other pure gold coins were being made. The person in charge of making those coins staked his very life on those coins being precisely the fineness they were supposed to be. And if those coins did not all, every single one, have the specified fineness either because of debasement or even accidental manufacture, then the person in charge of making those coins was executed. Now, do you really think people would take such risks as to have this coin here or that coin there turn out to be of a less than specified fineness ? And no, don't try and tell me that back then they did not have the technology to refine gold to modern levels of purity. They did. Even a thousand years ago they refine gold to any desired fineness they wished right down to 1/1000th of a percentage point. If they wanted .986 gold they could make it - exactly .986. If they wanted .930 gold they could make it, exactly .930. They had much more exacting standards back then than we do today.[/QUOTE]
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