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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 8145088, member: 19463"]I am particularly happy with my Galerius because it retains a trace of silvering. Since the post reform radiates were not silver washed and this mint did not use the XXI designation on pre-reform coins, this trace of silver demonstrates that the coin is pre-reform. </p><p><br /></p><p>Galerius antoninianus Lugdunum / Concordia and Caesar</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1420312[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Want list item: I do not have a pre-reform antoninianus of Galerius from a mint that did use XXI. I would prefer it have even the slightest bit of silver just to reinforce that point. This is a Constantius from Antioch but, sorry, there is no remaining silver.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1420317[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Unfortunately, there are many dealers who use the term antoninianus for the later post-reform radiates (most commonly having the mintmark and officina number in the field rather than in exergue. If you see one of these with silver, it was plated in modern times. </p><p><br /></p><p>Now my question for those here more expert in these than I:</p><p>Below are post-reform folles of Diocletian and Galerius from Lugdunum with a thunderbolt in exergue. .[ATTACH=full]1420316[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1420318[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>How am I to know that this Constantius was a pre-reform antoninianus (as sold to me by a European dealer) rather than a later post-reform radiate? It has no remaining silver. The seller quoted Bastien 493 but I do not have this reference. I would appreciate someone having this reference telling me what it says. Is this coin pre-reform or post-reform? RIC 635 lists it as pre-reform. I need to see a coin like this that still has some silver. Please, show me.</p><p><br /></p><p>Constantius I antoninianus Lugdunum / Providentia PROVID DEOR thunderbolt in exergue RIC 635 </p><p>[ATTACH=full]1420311[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>There are silvered coins of the type:</p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=4276192" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=4276192" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=4276192</a></p><p><br /></p><p>I see three options:</p><p>1. The mint was issuing thunderbolt antoniniani when the reform happened and changed over to large folles similarly marked but the two were not issued together at the same time. This is the RIC suggestion with the ants being in volume V and the folles in volume VI. I view this as most likely.</p><p><br /></p><p>2. The mint issued the post-reform radiates with silver being ignorant that the reform did not intend that denomination to be silvered.</p><p><br /></p><p>3. The coins were issued without silver and the high grade ones being sold have had their silver added to increase the market value. </p><p><br /></p><p>Option 4: I am confused. Help me. Has anyone done an assay of the coins to establish whether they contain the 4.7% silver expected of the antoniniani or only traces of silver as expected of a post-reform radiate?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 8145088, member: 19463"]I am particularly happy with my Galerius because it retains a trace of silvering. Since the post reform radiates were not silver washed and this mint did not use the XXI designation on pre-reform coins, this trace of silver demonstrates that the coin is pre-reform. Galerius antoninianus Lugdunum / Concordia and Caesar [ATTACH=full]1420312[/ATTACH] Want list item: I do not have a pre-reform antoninianus of Galerius from a mint that did use XXI. I would prefer it have even the slightest bit of silver just to reinforce that point. This is a Constantius from Antioch but, sorry, there is no remaining silver. [ATTACH=full]1420317[/ATTACH] Unfortunately, there are many dealers who use the term antoninianus for the later post-reform radiates (most commonly having the mintmark and officina number in the field rather than in exergue. If you see one of these with silver, it was plated in modern times. Now my question for those here more expert in these than I: Below are post-reform folles of Diocletian and Galerius from Lugdunum with a thunderbolt in exergue. .[ATTACH=full]1420316[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1420318[/ATTACH] How am I to know that this Constantius was a pre-reform antoninianus (as sold to me by a European dealer) rather than a later post-reform radiate? It has no remaining silver. The seller quoted Bastien 493 but I do not have this reference. I would appreciate someone having this reference telling me what it says. Is this coin pre-reform or post-reform? RIC 635 lists it as pre-reform. I need to see a coin like this that still has some silver. Please, show me. Constantius I antoninianus Lugdunum / Providentia PROVID DEOR thunderbolt in exergue RIC 635 [ATTACH=full]1420311[/ATTACH] There are silvered coins of the type: [URL]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=4276192[/URL] I see three options: 1. The mint was issuing thunderbolt antoniniani when the reform happened and changed over to large folles similarly marked but the two were not issued together at the same time. This is the RIC suggestion with the ants being in volume V and the folles in volume VI. I view this as most likely. 2. The mint issued the post-reform radiates with silver being ignorant that the reform did not intend that denomination to be silvered. 3. The coins were issued without silver and the high grade ones being sold have had their silver added to increase the market value. Option 4: I am confused. Help me. Has anyone done an assay of the coins to establish whether they contain the 4.7% silver expected of the antoniniani or only traces of silver as expected of a post-reform radiate?[/QUOTE]
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