First owl tet

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by jb_depew, Oct 2, 2017.

  1. jb_depew

    jb_depew Well-Known Member

    I have always liked the iconic owl tet of Athens, and finally decided to buy one. This one flew in from London (picked up from a Roma auction a couple of months back). I was drawn to the full crest and archaic smile on the obverse. The owl and the theta are a little wimpy, but I'm happy with my buy. It's lightly toned and a bit dirty (literally) - can anyone recommend a gentle cleaning method? You can see some encrusted dirt by the olive spring and in the letter E.

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    Athens AR Tetradrachm
    Circa 454-404 BC
    Obverse: Head of Athena right, wearing earring, necklace, and crested Attic helmet decorated with three olive leaves over visor and a spiral palmette on the bowl.
    Reverse: Owl standing right with head facing, olive sprig with berry and crescent in upper left field, AΘE to right; all within incuse square.
    References: Kroll 8; SNG Copenhagen 31; Dewing 1591-8.
    Size: 24mm, 10h.
    Weight: 17.01g
     
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  3. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Congratulations on a great win! The coin looks perfect - leave it be, no more cleaning. If you want clean coins, collect Morgan Dollars.
     
  4. Theodosius

    Theodosius Fine Style Seeker

    That is a nice example!

    A little ancient dirt looks good on a 2400 year old coin.

    I would leave it alone too.

    John
     
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  5. Ken Dorney

    Ken Dorney Yea, I'm Cool That Way...

    Dont clean it. You will only devalue the coin!
     
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  6. jb_depew

    jb_depew Well-Known Member

    Sounds like good advice to me, I will leave it alone. Thanks!

    Does anyone else have an owl they'd like to share?
     
  7. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    That's a beauty! The crest is superb!

    Here's my budget example, also from Roma (for 70GBP):
    Screen Shot 2017-10-01 at 9.36.06 PM.png
     
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  8. HBrider

    HBrider Member

    Very nice example.
     
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  9. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    Really nice coin. I wish I had one to share, but afraid not. Maybe someday...
     
  10. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    A nice looking coin. Yeah don't clean it :eek:
     
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  11. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

    That's a beautiful coin. Don't touch it. I have a superb example currently sitting on my long want list.
     
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  12. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    WOW!! That's an incredible coin ...that should be left just as it is. My budget example:

    Athens tet 16.95g 25mm.JPG
     
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  13. Johndoe2000$

    Johndoe2000$ Well-Known Member

    Very nice example, congrats.
     
  14. Theodosius

    Theodosius Fine Style Seeker

    My first and only Owl Tetradrachm:

    Athens Tet 1a.jpg
    Attica, Athens
    AR Tetradrachm, 25mm, 17g, 3h, 449-404 BC
    Obverse: Helmeted head of Athena right, archaic eye.
    Reverse: AΘΕ; Owl right, tail as a single prong.
    References: Cf. SNG Copenhagen 1621
    Courtesy of John Anthony!
     
  15. jb_depew

    jb_depew Well-Known Member

    Really nice example!
     
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  16. LaCointessa

    LaCointessa Well-Known Member

    I enjoy cleaning ancients - but even this newbie only cleans those ancients so crusted and gunky that there is no way to know exactly what the heck is hidden under there. When I have obtained a coin from John Anthony and it has a bit of dust or dirt built up in a crevice like your coin, I leave that right where it is. It does not hamper me from knowing and enjoying what I have in my hand so it doesn't bother me at all.

    I like your coin. I don't think your owl is wimpy - but I do tend to go for the studious look!
     
    Last edited: Oct 2, 2017
  17. Deacon Ray

    Deacon Ray Artist & Historian Supporter

    Beautiful coin, @jb_depew ! I've been saving up for one of these but I keep spending my savings on other coins. :wacky:
     
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  18. ancientcoinguru

    ancientcoinguru Well-Known Member

    That is an absolutely gorgeous owl tet of Athens @jb_depew! I have two Athens tets.

    early style 449-413 BC
    Athens tet early style.png

    later style 393-300 BC
    Athens tet later style.png
     
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  19. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I have known a specialist in these who had over a hundred and an excuse for why each was significantly different. Most people get one and then realize there could be another in their future but don't really study the styles. I'm in the middle. I really would like an Archaic tet but the prices make it likely that won't be happening.
    These coins were made of good silver which is soft enough to wear and scratch easily. They vary greatly in centering and style. Those factors explain why you see them for $100 and $10,000. Just be sure you understand what factors did and should affect the price of the one that calls your name.
    Classical (later 5th century)
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    Later (4th century)
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  20. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    I wouldn't clean it as it looks great!
     
  21. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member


    Here's mine, B'day gift from my wife last year


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    ATTICA, Athens. Circa 454-404 BC. AR Tetradrachm
    Helmeted head of Athena right, with frontal eye
    Owl standing right, head facing, olive sprig and crescent behind, all within incuse square. ΑΘΕ in the right field
    24mm, 17.08 g, 8h
    Ref : Kroll # 8; HGC # 4,1597

    Q
     
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