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<p>[QUOTE="Severus Alexander, post: 5425106, member: 84744"]Great coin with excellent detail, congrats [USER=93702]@Clavdivs[/USER]! Always good to see more of these coming to Canada too. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Thanks for linking my thread [USER=110350]@DonnaML[/USER], and the kind words. <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/caesars-elephant-and-snake-what-do-they-mean.343865/page-2#post-3674122" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/caesars-elephant-and-snake-what-do-they-mean.343865/page-2#post-3674122">That ain't no carnyx</a>, nope. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> The case for the elephant representing Caesar's Roman enemies, with the bearded & crested snake representing Caesar and the common people, is strengthened <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/caesars-elephant-and-snake-what-do-they-mean.343865/#post-3637156" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/caesars-elephant-and-snake-what-do-they-mean.343865/#post-3637156">here</a>.</p><p><br /></p><p>I think one thing that pulls people into the erroneous carnyx interpretation is that funny beard and crest. But magic/spiritual/divine snakes are <i>always</i> represented as bearded/crested at this time. Weird to us (so easy to say "oh, must be a carnyx then? <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie12" alt="o_O" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />") but not at all weird for this coin's intended audience. They knew what it meant.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Well, I'm not a Caesar specialist by any means, but as I recall from when I was researching these the thought is that the dumpy cartoonish elephant comes from a completely different mint (or set of mints?) from the the more realistic looking elephant. One speculation (based on find spots?) is that the dumpy elephant is from Spain.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1235574[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Severus Alexander, post: 5425106, member: 84744"]Great coin with excellent detail, congrats [USER=93702]@Clavdivs[/USER]! Always good to see more of these coming to Canada too. :) Thanks for linking my thread [USER=110350]@DonnaML[/USER], and the kind words. [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/caesars-elephant-and-snake-what-do-they-mean.343865/page-2#post-3674122']That ain't no carnyx[/URL], nope. :D The case for the elephant representing Caesar's Roman enemies, with the bearded & crested snake representing Caesar and the common people, is strengthened [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/caesars-elephant-and-snake-what-do-they-mean.343865/#post-3637156']here[/URL]. I think one thing that pulls people into the erroneous carnyx interpretation is that funny beard and crest. But magic/spiritual/divine snakes are [I]always[/I] represented as bearded/crested at this time. Weird to us (so easy to say "oh, must be a carnyx then? o_O") but not at all weird for this coin's intended audience. They knew what it meant. Well, I'm not a Caesar specialist by any means, but as I recall from when I was researching these the thought is that the dumpy cartoonish elephant comes from a completely different mint (or set of mints?) from the the more realistic looking elephant. One speculation (based on find spots?) is that the dumpy elephant is from Spain. [ATTACH=full]1235574[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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