First Byzantine coin

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  1. Stanw891

    Stanw891 Member

    175FE758-C370-4A66-BF21-2AC1BF1D87FE.jpeg I have been a huge reader of Byzantine History, even traveling to Turkey to specifically what they left behind. This is my first coin. I plan to get more Byzantine coins, because of my passion for their history! It is a Follis of Maurice Tiberius, second year of his reign. 133AE746-3842-44A4-8345-6C05AC75C8B3.jpeg
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  3. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Welcome to the world of big Byzantine bronzes!

    The only thing I would correct on your id is that it isn't year 2.
  4. Stanw891

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  5. Stanw891

    Stanw891 Member

    Thanks! What year is it? I am new to this haha!
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    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    Hearty welcome, @Stanw891! Looks as if @furryfrog02 was on his way to elaborating on the date, and momentarily fell victim to the sort of glitch that all online technology is heir to.
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  7. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    I fell victim to having 3 kids under 10! lol
    @Stanw891 your coin is dated GII which if I'm not mistaken is 8. G being 6 and then the II.
    I may have that screwed up in my exhausted mind right now. lol
  8. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Here is my Maurice Tiberius that was minted the reginal year after yours:

    Maurice Tiberius, Follis Constantinople 2.png
  9. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Awesome! My first two Byzantine (GOOD) coins were from @tenbobbit

    Justin I
    Justin I Constantinople SB63 (2020_11_18 03_38_31 UTC).JPG

    Justin II Justin II and Sophia Sear 366 (2020_11_18 03_38_31 UTC).JPG

    My ACTUAL first byantine was:
    Justin II 5 nummus
    Justin II Pentanummium SB371 (2020_11_18 03_38_31 UTC).JPG
  10. Stanw891

    Stanw891 Member

    @furryfrog02 Thank you so much! I have a one and three year old running around, so I understand the exhaustion haha!
  11. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Byzantines are an acquired taste, especially if you're used to Roman imperial coins. Often times, the engraving and striking quality is rather poor.

    Here's a small, light, and thin overstrike of a follis. The shift from LARGE, HEAVY early follises to small and poorly struck folles is pretty dramatic.

    Constans II
    Constans II Sear 1105 (2020_11_18 03_38_31 UTC).JPG
  12. robinjojo

    robinjojo Supporter! Supporter

    You might want to check out large lot offerings through dealers and auction houses such as Roma. You can get an assortment of interesting and nice Byzantine bronzes at a pretty good price.

    Just be careful bidding; auction houses include a buyer's fee. Roma charges a 20% fee, others are in that ballpark as well. Also, with overseas auctions and purchases, there currency conversion to consider.

    Here's one example, a half tetarteron of Manuel I Commenus,1143-1180.

    1.7 grams

    D-Camera Byzantine Empire Manuel I Comnenus half tetarteion BCV 1977 1.7g Roma 80 lg lt 2-21-21.jpg
    Last edited: Feb 26, 2021
  13. Only a Poor Old Man

    Only a Poor Old Man Well-Known Member

  14. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    @furryfrog02, that is One. Frightening. Reality Check.
    Can I wish you 'Godspeed' between the sustained chuckling? (...Nope, the chuckling ensues --trust that's a good omen.)
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  15. ambr0zie

    ambr0zie Dacian Taraboste

    My first (and only) Byzantine
    SB 1681 Theophilus. AE Follis. Syracuse mint. Theofil Basil, crowned bust facing with short beard, wearing chlamys, holding cross on globe / Large M, XXX to left, cross above, NNN to right, theta below. SB 1681, DOC 30.
    Last edited: Feb 27, 2021
  16. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    Welcome to Coin Talk! That's a nice Maurice Tiberius follis - here is one of mine:

    Byz - Maurice Tib Const. Follis Feb 2020 (0).jpg
    Maurice Tiberius Æ Follis
    Year 7 (588-589 A.D.)
    Constantinople Mint

    DN MAVRIC TIBER PP AVG, Helmeted and cuirassed bust facing, holding cross on globe & shield / Large M, ANNO left, cross above, ς I year right, Officina A below; CON in ex.
    SB 494; MIB 65d-67d.
    (11.09 grams / 27 x 25 mm)

    As for those dates, when I first started collecting Byzantines a couple years back, the Greek 5 and 6 often confused me. Here is a cheat I use:

    Regnal year μ - Greek 5

    Regnal year ς - Greek 6

    Sometimes they are still hard to tell apart, at least for me. As Furryfrog notes, yours is: Regnal year ς II (8)
  17. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight I AM the Senate! Supporter

    Irene and Constantine VI, Byzantine Empire
    AE follis
    Obv: Facing bust of Irene, wearing crown and loros, holding globus cruciger and cruciform sceptre
    Rev: Facing bust of Constantine VI, beardless, wearing crown and chlamys, holding globus cruciger, two pellets to left, cross to right, all above horzontal bar, large M below flanked by X and N (partly off-flan)
    Mint: Constantinople
    Date: 792-797 AD
    Ref: SB 1598

  18. AussieCollector

    AussieCollector Moderator Moderator

    Fantastic first Eastern Roman Empire/Byzantine coin @Stanw891

    Tiberius is a great choice.
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  19. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter Basileus Megalos

    Nice coin @Stanw891 - welcome to the world of Byzantines. Although I primarily collect Roman Imperials I have a good amount of Byzantines as well.

    Here's one of Anastasius, who invented the large, chunky folles. Before that there were only tiny nummus coins with probably zero value. An accountant by profession, Anastasius left the state coffers with 23 million solidi upon his death.


  20. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    A coin with Irene! So cool!
  21. robinjojo

    robinjojo Supporter! Supporter

    Here are two more coins from the same group lot.

    Heraclius, follis, Cyzicus, year 3 (612/3), officina B.
    SB 839

    Over-strike on an earlier follis, as is typical with his coinage.

    9.9 grams

    D-Camera Heraclius AE follis, Cyzicus,  yr 3 (612-3 AD), offic B , SB 839 R Lg Lt 9.9gr 2-27-21.jpg

    Justin I, follis, Constantinople, 518-527 AD, officina ε.
    SB 62

    16.0 grams

    A bit crusty, but decent.

    D-Camera Justin AE follis, Constantinolple,  518-527 AD,  SB 62 R Lg Lt 16.0gr 2-27-21.jpg
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