first ancient

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  1. DBDc80

    DBDc80 Numismatist

    Thought id share this one with you guys. This is my first ancient, purchased in 2014 (ex Demitriadis) tmp_25452-20170225_2148191577284625.jpg tmp_25452-20170225_214904-1878840699.jpg tmp_25452-20170225_2148191577284625.jpg . While i dont normally collect ancients exclusively, this is one that "spoke" to me.
     
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  3. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    What is the attribution? It's a beautiful coin for sure. I can see whay it might "speak" to you.
     
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  4. alde

    alde Always Learning

    Great first ancient. Congratulations.
     
  5. icerain

    icerain Mastir spellyr

    In case you want to know more about your coin, here it is

    Pamphylia, Side. AR Tetradrachm
    145-125 BC.
    -Helemted head of Athena right
    -Nike advancing left, holding wreath, pomegranate, in field K/\E-YX
    SNG France 695

    There might be variations but I'm not sure.
     
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  6. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Like I said, beautiful. Here an AE from Side with a winged thunderbolt counter-mark.
    PAMPHYLIA SIDE.jpg
    PAMPHYLIA SIDE
    Æ16
    OBVERSE: Head of Athena right, in crested Corinthian helmet, winged thunder bolt countermark
    REVERSE: SIDHTWN, Nike advancing left, holding wreath; pomegranate to left
    Struck at Side, 2d-1st Century BC
    2.72g, 16mm
    SNG Cop 408, BMC 66
     
  7. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    g61820b00258lg.jpg g61830bb1449.jpg Few are the ancient coin types with no variations. They even come in a bronze fraction.
     
  8. DBDc80

    DBDc80 Numismatist

    im pretty Sure its SNG France 697.
     
  9. DBDc80

    DBDc80 Numismatist

    Really like the top one with the anchor countermark. What was the purpose of those markings?
     
  10. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

  11. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    Me likey. I really love the detail and centering. You have a very choice example.
     
  12. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    Congrats DBD , great coin, certainly for a first ancient.
    what is the weight and diameter ?

    Heres mine:

    Tetra Side Pallas - Niké Pamphylia.jpg


    @ countermarks can mean : an upgrade in value , an adoption in another currency system then the Original system, proof of good silver (bankers mark) , a state tax paid.
     
  13. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    The anchor was the sign of the Seleucid kings. I assume the coin was accepted as good in their lands but there are different meanings for different marks and I have not studied this specific one. We may not know but there are usually experts who publish guesses. The anchor countermark shows up on a variety of coins. Below is one from Phaselis, Lycia. Many but not all were placed as if they were trying not to damage the original design. Not all c/m's were applied with such care.
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  14. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Ummm, I think Doug may be referring to examples like this baby?

    => although it is uncommon and awesome to have the counter-mark on the reverse, the down-side is the snout-damage on the obverse ...


    ancients666c.jpg ancients666d.jpg

    ... I still think this coin rocks!!

    :rolleyes:
     
  15. DBDc80

    DBDc80 Numismatist

    beautiful coin! Love tge detail!!
     
  16. DBDc80

    DBDc80 Numismatist

    weight is around 16.3 grams....30 mm diameter. Really love your piece as well!! There is something about the feel of these coins that make them special and sets them apart from everything mainstream. The weight, the relief...just unbelieveable!
     
  17. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Awesome first!
     
  18. DBDc80

    DBDc80 Numismatist

     
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