first ancient purchase

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by bobbeth87, Dec 12, 2011.

  1. bobbeth87

    bobbeth87 Coin Collector

    Actually, my 2nd.....I picked up a widow's mite a while back.

    This was for sale at my coin club auction for $12 bucks and I liked it so I bought it. I'm not an ancient collector, but I thought this was cool. Was $12 a decent price? What do you know about this coin? It said it was Roman from about 300 AD. It is about the size of a US Presidential Dollar. What is on the reverse?

    Thanks for your comments!

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  3. All these coins iv seen were smaller If they are this big id like one.Nice looking coin
     
  4. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    Yes, it is a Roman coin. The emperor is Vespasian. (Note "VESP' in the legend on the obverse.) I don't know who the figure is on the reverse but the "SC" stands for "Senatus Consulto" which translates to "by permission of the Senate". This meant that the Roman Senate established the value of the coin (which often was greater than the intrinsic value of the bronze coins).

    I would say you did OK buying that coin for $12.
     
  5. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    The bust resembles more that of Domitian, Vespasian's son.
    Depending on its weight it could be a sestertius, or an as of Domitian. The Figure on the reverse appear to be the goddess Minerva but not sure.
     
  6. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Looks like it to me.
     
  7. Gao

    Gao Member

    While "Vesp" does stand for Vespasian, and it's usually a sign that a coin is of Vespasian or his son Titus (who also had "Vespasian" as part of his name), the way it's used here is one you don't see that often. The coin says "Divi Vesp F." The "F" stands for "Filius," which means "son of," so it's "Son of the Divine Vespasian."
     
  8. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    I stand corrected. Thanks for the lesson.
     
  9. medoraman

    medoraman Well-Known Member

    Don't worry Hobo, I was not aware of these Divi issues either, and was confused by the OP coin. We all learn new things here, that is why we are here, right?

    If you never learn anything, you are just listening to yourself talk, right? :) I sincerely hope I never get to the point in life where I stop learning new things.

    Chris
     
  10. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    Chris,

    I know enough about ancient coins to be dangerous. I am always eager to learn more about ancient coins or any coins.
     
  11. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    The legends are weak but clear. On the reverse it says TRP COS VII DES VIII PP. The significant part is The DES VIII which means that the coin was issued late in the year 81 AD after the death of his brother Titus. The Romans assumed the consulship on January 1 so Domitian, now the new emperor, had announced the intention of assuming the eighth consulship on New Year's day even though this coin was made before that date arrived. The inclusion of DIVI VESP F points out that Domitian was just as much a son of the divine Vespasian as had been Titus. It is not uncommon for emperors to include honorifics to their predecessor but in this case Domitian was not becoming emperor because he was brother of Titus but because he was son of Vespasian. Certainly it would be nice if the coin were a bit less rough but it certainly is worth $12. Fans of big coins will be glad to know that Domitian also issued sestertii worth four of these asses which are almost US silver dollar size but you'll have more trouble finding one for $12... a lot more trouble.

    Anyone interested in a bit more on abbreviations of this sort might like my page:
    http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/abb.html
     
  12. bobbeth87

    bobbeth87 Coin Collector

    THANK YOU for the great info!!

    bob
     
  13. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    Thank you for posting the coin.

    It was nice to learn about your new coin. Now you may want to write-down all this good information and keep it with the coin.
     
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