Fire damaged CC's

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Dougy1CC, May 11, 2017.

  1. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Cite where I said all Internet dealers are scammers. You can't because I never said it, so now you're a liar too. I said most people get scammed on the Internet, and I stand by that. I also do understand technology. I understand its very significant limitations as well, and I don't fetishize over it like some do.

    Heck, lately even sellers are increasingly getting scammed, and I object equally to that, while I must admit a touch of shadenfreude comes along with that.
     
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  3. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    What's the matter, they aren't man enough to respond to baseball21 by posting their thoughts in this thread?
     
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  4. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Lehigh said it best, there is no reason to take you seriously anymore on this subject
     
  5. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    A few comments and feel free to call me out also.
    1. The state of the union of collectors. I have been in this for 50 years and have constantly heard the doom and gloom scenarios from all sorts of people, both published and personal. It is cyclical and seems generational. People start young, then drop out for years to marry, raise families, pursue careers, etc. Then they come back. Up and down and all over again. It ain't over, 'till it's over and no one has a crystal ball that really works.
    2. The internet... is both a bane and a modern miracle. It is taking the life out of mom and pop stores and transferring much to internet sales. It is taking the life out of published hard copy material. It has taken the life out of the family structure and normal socialization. But to say the material available online is not truth is just not so. We have all become used to using many different sites for info that is not feasible to print in books. I mean, what would (I) do w/o sites like John Wexler's or cuds-on coins or so many others, not in physical print in my selected pursuit of what I collect and or sell. On the other hand I do not believe much of what I see on F.B., Twitter and the like, a LOT of non truth.
    3. Internet availability...sad to say but the F.C.C. is not doing their job. It took forever to get DSL in the area around me and was a constant source of frustration. I never needed anything as fast as FIOS so my DSL serves me well right now. I feel for you in this respect Kurt.
    4. Selling problem coins...This is a Capitalist society and free market. I do not see a problem with this just as long as these type of items are advertised properly. There will always be a market for the tougher varieties and dates for those w/o deep pockets. But, and even though most will disagree, I believe in acid dating and cleaning dug coins, at the very least saving them for posterity, history and from jewelry makers. All this is said humbly and not meant to offend anyone. Thanks.
     
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  6. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    3. I might disagree with a bit that would be political so I won't.

    Also generally agree with 2 material is and has been shifting for sure.

    1 and 4 overall I agree with overall as well.


    I personally get sick of the nonsense that somehow collecting is dying because people aren't doing it how certain people want them too.

    That was overall a very quality post Tommy that hopefully some people will listen to coming from you over me
     
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  7. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    Guys, why are you so hard on each other? I see good points made by both sides. Of course, the Internet is indispensable nowadays, even when it comes to numismatics. Except if you live in North Korea (or should I say rural Pennsylvania ;-)


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    Last edited: May 14, 2017
  8. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Most of North Korea gets better SIGNAL than rural Pennsylvania. Content restrictions are another matter.
     
  9. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    And I think most of Iceland heats their homes with volcanic heat..."When will they ever learn..."
     
  10. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    North Korea is where the flying monkeys (Wizard of Oz) came from.........
     
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  11. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Not if you're on Ritalin...OH look! There goes another...;):D
     
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