Fingerprints on Coins

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  1. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    That's a shame but I believe it! :D
     
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  3. Islander80-83

    Islander80-83 Well-Known Member

    So that must be the TPG'ers policy, standard or regulation, correct? Or is it still subjective?
     
  4. wxcoin

    wxcoin Getting no respect since I was a baby

    If everyone would fingerprint their coins there'd be no need for bar codes and certification numbers on slabs.
     
  5. CoinCorgi

    CoinCorgi Tell your dog I said hi!

    409 cleans surfaces nicely.
     
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  6. Maxfli

    Maxfli Well-Known Member

    And, it disinfects!
     
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  7. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Let's put it this way. I have never seen nor even heard of a coin that was body-bagged or detail graded because of a fingerprint !
     
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  8. leeg

    leeg I Enjoy Toned Coins

    Don't care for obvious prints on my coins. Occasionally, print is subtle and blends in well with the toning. Then it becomes a matter of date, rarity, etc., whether I'll purchase it.

    Here is an example of a 1910 reverse with a subtle print between the "N" and "T" of Cent:

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    The obverse:

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    Sold it years ago, not because of the print though. Normal size image did not show up.
     
  9. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    I do not believe that is a fingerprint. It is difficult for the fingertip to deposit material that close to the edge of devices such as the 'N' and the 'E'. There is usually a small gap coming off , or going on the letter on the edge. I think just a small band of chemical corrosion. Did you have any suspicions of chemical treatment when it was in your collection? Jim
     
  10. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    I personally detest fingerprints on coins, and will not buy them (unless it is an incredibly rare coin and that's the only way). Because I consider them such a negative on eye appeal, I will often grade the coin a point lower than a TPG does. However, the TPGs don't seem to mind fingerprints and don't significantly reduce the grade because of them.
     
  11. CoinCorgi

    CoinCorgi Tell your dog I said hi!

    I keep a 40% silver Ike (not proof) as a pocket piece because it had a distracting fingerprint on the obverse. Just a few days after first putting it in my pocket, the fingerprint was gone!
     
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  12. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Correct, because coins are graded based on the amount of WEAR on the coin. A fingerprint is NOT wear. So a coin with no wear and with a fingerprint is still MS. But it may be given a lower MS grade due to eye appeal.
     
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  13. robec

    robec Junior Member

    I don't care for fingerprints on coins either, but sometimes I'm not bothered by them.

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  14. leeg

    leeg I Enjoy Toned Coins

    Not at all Jim.
     
  15. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I think there are and always have been a great many examples where what people see on coins, and call fingerprints, are not fingerprints at all. Merely random markings caused by something (anything really) entirely different.

    It is not all unusual for people to see what they want to see, or not see what they don't want to see. It happens all the time, and regarding many different things. And basically we are all susceptible to this phenomena to one degree or another. The thing you have to do is be aware of it so you can force yourself to look at things in a strictly objective manner.
     
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  16. Chad lajoice

    Chad lajoice Member

    I’ve been lurking here awhile. Seen this post and figured I post a pic of a finger print that would have bothered me if I bought the coin. My brother in law gave it to me as a gift so im ok with it. It’s a 1883 ms64
     

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  17. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Nice looking coin. Can you please start a new thread and post photos of it?
     
  18. Islander80-83

    Islander80-83 Well-Known Member

    @Chad lajoice- You can post them here if you like.
     
  19. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Yes, certainly, but it would get more views in its own thread. For threads like this, I think double posting is no sin. :)
     
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  20. Islander80-83

    Islander80-83 Well-Known Member

    You knew, you're right. No problem.
     
  21. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    BTW...what island?
     
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