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<p>[QUOTE="Curtis, post: 24895701, member: 26430"]Not a super important provenance, but a nice surprise.... Pair of surprises: coin and literature.</p><p><br /></p><p>In addition to coins, I really love provenanced numismatic <i>literature</i>. Especially with my coins inside. Especially-<i>especially</i> if it's a coin w/ <i>lost</i> provenance. And super-<i>double-especially</i> when I've recovered lost provenance for both coin <i>AND</i> literature<i>.</i></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/2-greek-coins-for-my-collection.409616/#post-24866706" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/2-greek-coins-for-my-collection.409616/#post-24866706">Previously posted it</a> once. (Need better photo.)</p><blockquote><blockquote><p><p style="text-align: center"><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/conservatori-antioch-autonomous-ae-tetrachalkon-png.1595330/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p> </p></blockquote><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="5"><b>Antioch (Seleukis & Pieria) AE Tetrachalkon</b> (20mm, 8.0g, 2h). Pseudo-autonomous issue, Pompeian Era (?), 1st century BCE.</font></font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="5"><b>Obv: </b>Bust of Zeus facing right, beaded border</font></font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="5"><b>Rev: </b>ANTIOΧΕΩN THΣ MHTΡOΠOΛEΩΣ. Zeus Nikephoros (holding Nike & scepter) seated right.</font></font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="5"><b>References:</b> Cf. RPC I 4216, 4231 type; HGC 9, 1366-1372; McAlee 43.</font></font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="5"><b>Provenance</b>: Ex Alex G. Malloy FPL XXIX (1972), No. 527 ($5), w/ AGM's hand-written envelope. </font></font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="4">[<i><i>When did I acquire/from whom?</i> ca. 2003-13? G. Dayton [IL], N. Hochrein [WI], Agora or VAuctions?</i>]</font></font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="4"></font></font></blockquote><p>Last night, I was annotating a new group of Alex G. Malloy's Fixed Price Lists from 1969-1984, from the American Numismatic Society Library Duplicates.</p><p><br /></p><p><i>What a surprise!</i> I can't believe Malloy went to the trouble -- especially >50 years ago when coin photography was difficult & expensive!</p><p><br /></p><p>But here it is! In Malloy's FPL 39 (Aug-Sep 1972):</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1599474[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>I notice the envelope is very similar color & paper stock to Malloy's catalogs. Also, the lot # (527) is penciled in the top r. corner. I suspect that's whose envelope this is:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1599488[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>What I love about booklet-sized Fixed Price Lists: address labels & postage are often affixed to the back cover. So you can see who the original owner was, even 50 years later.</p><p><br /></p><p>This one was Los Angeles area collector & professional numismatist Michael J. Shubin (1950-2008). He worked at Malter Galleries & elsewhere. Estate dispersed among ANS [<a href="http://numismatics.org/authority/shubin_michael" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://numismatics.org/authority/shubin_michael" rel="nofollow">Shubin archive/coll.</a>], Getty, Emory University, and a few other institutions.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1599475[/ATTACH]</p><blockquote><p>Alex G. Malloy FPLs (about 35 total), c. 1969-1984 (New York).</p><p>Ex ANS Library Duplicates;</p><p>Ex Michael J. Shubin Library.</p></blockquote><p><br /></p><p>Incidentally, I also found <i>someone else's coin</i>, a Constans FEL TEMP REPARATIO. (<a href="https://www.numisforums.com/topic/3705-do-you-have-coins-with-interesting-provenance-bonus-points-for-accompanying-plates/?do=findComment&comment=75572" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.numisforums.com/topic/3705-do-you-have-coins-with-interesting-provenance-bonus-points-for-accompanying-plates/?do=findComment&comment=75572" rel="nofollow">Shared it on NF</a> where its collector posts.)</p><p>[ATTACH]1599476[/ATTACH] <i>(click to embiggen)</i></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p style="text-align: center"><b>Re: Cultural Property Restrictions & Provenance Dates:</b></p><p><br /></p><p>Not trying to start a debate about restrictions, but as a practical issue, here's one reason it can matter:</p><p><br /></p><p>The 1972 sale doesn't quite meet the 1970 provenance requirement sometimes suggested (i.e., pre-UNESCO Convention on Cultural Property)...</p><p><br /></p><p>But it <i>DOES </i>meet the 1973/4 standard used by the AIA (Archaeological Institute of America) & for publication in <i>AJA</i> (Am. Jour. Arch.):</p><p><br /></p><blockquote><p>"The Archaeological Institute of America believes that Museums can henceforth best implement such cooperation by refusing to acquire through purchase, gift, or bequest cultural property exported subsequent to December 30, 1973, in violation of the laws obtaining in the countries of origin."</p><p><i>-- <a href="https://www.archaeological.org/resolution-on-the-acquisition-of-antiquities-by-museums/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.archaeological.org/resolution-on-the-acquisition-of-antiquities-by-museums/" rel="nofollow">Resolution On The Acquisition Of Antiquities By Museums (19 Dec 1973)</a></i></p><p><br /></p><p>"The publication and presentation venues of the Archaeological Institute of America will not serve for the initial scholarly publication or announcement of any object in a private or public collection acquired after December 30, 1973, unless its existence is documented before that date, or it was legally exported from the country of origin."</p><p><i>-- <a href="https://www.ajaonline.org/submissions/antiquities-policy" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.ajaonline.org/submissions/antiquities-policy" rel="nofollow">AJA Policy on the Publication and Citation of Undocumented Antiquities</a></i></p></blockquote><p>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Curtis, post: 24895701, member: 26430"]Not a super important provenance, but a nice surprise.... Pair of surprises: coin and literature. In addition to coins, I really love provenanced numismatic [I]literature[/I]. Especially with my coins inside. Especially-[I]especially[/I] if it's a coin w/ [I]lost[/I] provenance. And super-[I]double-especially[/I] when I've recovered lost provenance for both coin [I]AND[/I] literature[I].[/I] [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/2-greek-coins-for-my-collection.409616/#post-24866706']Previously posted it[/URL] once. (Need better photo.) [INDENT][INDENT][CENTER][IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/conservatori-antioch-autonomous-ae-tetrachalkon-png.1595330/[/IMG][/CENTER][/INDENT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=5][B]Antioch (Seleukis & Pieria) AE Tetrachalkon[/B] (20mm, 8.0g, 2h). Pseudo-autonomous issue, Pompeian Era (?), 1st century BCE. [B]Obv: [/B]Bust of Zeus facing right, beaded border [B]Rev: [/B]ANTIOΧΕΩN THΣ MHTΡOΠOΛEΩΣ. Zeus Nikephoros (holding Nike & scepter) seated right. [B]References:[/B] Cf. RPC I 4216, 4231 type; HGC 9, 1366-1372; McAlee 43. [B]Provenance[/B]: Ex Alex G. Malloy FPL XXIX (1972), No. 527 ($5), w/ AGM's hand-written envelope. [/SIZE] [SIZE=4][[I][I]When did I acquire/from whom?[/I] ca. 2003-13? G. Dayton [IL], N. Hochrein [WI], Agora or VAuctions?[/I]] [/SIZE][/FONT][/INDENT] Last night, I was annotating a new group of Alex G. Malloy's Fixed Price Lists from 1969-1984, from the American Numismatic Society Library Duplicates. [I]What a surprise![/I] I can't believe Malloy went to the trouble -- especially >50 years ago when coin photography was difficult & expensive! But here it is! In Malloy's FPL 39 (Aug-Sep 1972): [ATTACH=full]1599474[/ATTACH] I notice the envelope is very similar color & paper stock to Malloy's catalogs. Also, the lot # (527) is penciled in the top r. corner. I suspect that's whose envelope this is: [ATTACH=full]1599488[/ATTACH] What I love about booklet-sized Fixed Price Lists: address labels & postage are often affixed to the back cover. So you can see who the original owner was, even 50 years later. This one was Los Angeles area collector & professional numismatist Michael J. Shubin (1950-2008). He worked at Malter Galleries & elsewhere. Estate dispersed among ANS [[URL='http://numismatics.org/authority/shubin_michael']Shubin archive/coll.[/URL]], Getty, Emory University, and a few other institutions. [ATTACH=full]1599475[/ATTACH] [INDENT]Alex G. Malloy FPLs (about 35 total), c. 1969-1984 (New York). Ex ANS Library Duplicates; Ex Michael J. Shubin Library.[/INDENT] Incidentally, I also found [I]someone else's coin[/I], a Constans FEL TEMP REPARATIO. ([URL='https://www.numisforums.com/topic/3705-do-you-have-coins-with-interesting-provenance-bonus-points-for-accompanying-plates/?do=findComment&comment=75572']Shared it on NF[/URL] where its collector posts.) [ATTACH]1599476[/ATTACH] [I](click to embiggen)[/I] [CENTER][B]Re: Cultural Property Restrictions & Provenance Dates:[/B][/CENTER] Not trying to start a debate about restrictions, but as a practical issue, here's one reason it can matter: The 1972 sale doesn't quite meet the 1970 provenance requirement sometimes suggested (i.e., pre-UNESCO Convention on Cultural Property)... But it [I]DOES [/I]meet the 1973/4 standard used by the AIA (Archaeological Institute of America) & for publication in [I]AJA[/I] (Am. Jour. Arch.): [INDENT]"The Archaeological Institute of America believes that Museums can henceforth best implement such cooperation by refusing to acquire through purchase, gift, or bequest cultural property exported subsequent to December 30, 1973, in violation of the laws obtaining in the countries of origin." [I]-- [URL='https://www.archaeological.org/resolution-on-the-acquisition-of-antiquities-by-museums/']Resolution On The Acquisition Of Antiquities By Museums (19 Dec 1973)[/URL][/I] "The publication and presentation venues of the Archaeological Institute of America will not serve for the initial scholarly publication or announcement of any object in a private or public collection acquired after December 30, 1973, unless its existence is documented before that date, or it was legally exported from the country of origin." [I]-- [URL='https://www.ajaonline.org/submissions/antiquities-policy']AJA Policy on the Publication and Citation of Undocumented Antiquities[/URL][/I][/INDENT][/QUOTE]
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