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<p>[QUOTE="Sulla80, post: 22693873, member: 99456"][ATTACH=full]1545154[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><b>How can you find provenance for your ancient coins?</b> It helps to get good at recognizing dies and die matches and knowing what your coins look like.</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Brute Force:</b> flipping through large numbers of books and catalogs in paper and electronic libraries. I haven't tried this unless I was just looking for an image of a coin with a known auction listing.</p><p>Example: <a href="https://www.sullacoins.com/post/coins-of-parthian-king-phraates-iv" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.sullacoins.com/post/coins-of-parthian-king-phraates-iv" rel="nofollow">https://www.sullacoins.com/post/coins-of-parthian-king-phraates-iv</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Two sources for auction catalogs:</p><ul> <li><a href="https://www.rnumis.com/frontpage.php" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.rnumis.com/frontpage.php" rel="nofollow">RNumis</a> a free online resource for provenance research (mostly Greek coin focused)<br /> </li> <li><a href="https://nnp.wustl.edu/library/auctioncompanies" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://nnp.wustl.edu/library/auctioncompanies" rel="nofollow">The Newman Numismatic Portal</a> located at Washington University in St. Louis a free resource for numismatic research and reference material (more US Coin focused)</li> </ul><p><br /></p><p><b>Roman Republican coins </b>- the <a href="http://numismatics.org/archives/ark:/53695/schaefer.rrdp.b04" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://numismatics.org/archives/ark:/53695/schaefer.rrdp.b04" rel="nofollow">Schaeffer Roman Republican Die Project is a useful resource </a> <a href="http://numismatics.org/archives/ark:/53695/schaefer.rrdp.b04" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://numismatics.org/archives/ark:/53695/schaefer.rrdp.b04" rel="nofollow">http://numismatics.org/archives/ark:/53695/schaefer.rrdp.b04</a>.</p><p><br /></p><p>Examples:</p><ul> <li><a href="https://www.sullacoins.com/post/fun-provenance-find" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.sullacoins.com/post/fun-provenance-find" rel="nofollow">https://www.sullacoins.com/post/fun-provenance-find</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.sullacoins.com/post/unencrypting-crawford-rrc" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.sullacoins.com/post/unencrypting-crawford-rrc" rel="nofollow">https://www.sullacoins.com/post/unencrypting-crawford-rrc</a></li> </ul><p><br /></p><p><b>Coins of Roman Egypt </b>: Dattari Savio is an easy place to check with ~10K coins it provides one stop for 100+ years of provenance.</p><p><br /></p><p>Example: <a href="https://www.sullacoins.com/post/provenance-rediscovered" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.sullacoins.com/post/provenance-rediscovered" rel="nofollow">https://www.sullacoins.com/post/provenance-rediscovered</a></p><p><br /></p><p><b>Generally: ACSearch is pretty good </b>- both image search and scanning entries (when you don't have a coin with 1000s of hits), however you will rarely find anything more than 20-25 years old unless the selling auction house lists older provenance.</p><p><br /></p><p>Example: <a href="https://www.sullacoins.com/post/the-temple-on-mt-eryx" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.sullacoins.com/post/the-temple-on-mt-eryx" rel="nofollow">https://www.sullacoins.com/post/the-temple-on-mt-eryx</a></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1545128[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>ACSearch helped me track down this coin to 1989:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1545129[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Here's funny story here of 5 previous owners found with image search (5 owners in about 30 months) <a href="https://www.sullacoins.com/post/who-s-bidding" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.sullacoins.com/post/who-s-bidding" rel="nofollow">https://www.sullacoins.com/post/who-s-bidding</a></p><p><br /></p><p><b>Specific Types: Die studies for your coin of interest </b>are always a good place to look or for rarer coins the one reference article</p><p><br /></p><p>Example: <a href="https://www.sullacoins.com/post/ae-coin-from-ekkarra-achaea-phthiotis" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.sullacoins.com/post/ae-coin-from-ekkarra-achaea-phthiotis" rel="nofollow">https://www.sullacoins.com/post/ae-coin-from-ekkarra-achaea-phthiotis</a></p><p><br /></p><p><b>Image Searching: </b>Having tried periodically <a href="http://ex-numis.com" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://ex-numis.com" rel="nofollow">http://ex-numis.com</a> with no luck, even coins that I know have old provenance haven't turned up anything, I still hold out hope that this will be the best way to search provenance in the future, as databases grow and image matching technology improves.</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Post your coins with "restored provenance", or your favorite ways to add provenance, or anything else that you find interesting or entertaining.</b>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Sulla80, post: 22693873, member: 99456"][ATTACH=full]1545154[/ATTACH] [B]How can you find provenance for your ancient coins?[/B] It helps to get good at recognizing dies and die matches and knowing what your coins look like. [B]Brute Force:[/B] flipping through large numbers of books and catalogs in paper and electronic libraries. I haven't tried this unless I was just looking for an image of a coin with a known auction listing. Example: [URL]https://www.sullacoins.com/post/coins-of-parthian-king-phraates-iv[/URL] Two sources for auction catalogs: [LIST] [*][URL='https://www.rnumis.com/frontpage.php']RNumis[/URL] a free online resource for provenance research (mostly Greek coin focused) [*][URL='https://nnp.wustl.edu/library/auctioncompanies']The Newman Numismatic Portal[/URL] located at Washington University in St. Louis a free resource for numismatic research and reference material (more US Coin focused) [/LIST] [B]Roman Republican coins [/B]- the [URL='http://numismatics.org/archives/ark:/53695/schaefer.rrdp.b04']Schaeffer Roman Republican Die Project is a useful resource [/URL] [URL]http://numismatics.org/archives/ark:/53695/schaefer.rrdp.b04[/URL]. Examples: [LIST] [*][URL]https://www.sullacoins.com/post/fun-provenance-find[/URL] [*][URL]https://www.sullacoins.com/post/unencrypting-crawford-rrc[/URL] [/LIST] [B]Coins of Roman Egypt [/B]: Dattari Savio is an easy place to check with ~10K coins it provides one stop for 100+ years of provenance. Example: [URL]https://www.sullacoins.com/post/provenance-rediscovered[/URL] [B]Generally: ACSearch is pretty good [/B]- both image search and scanning entries (when you don't have a coin with 1000s of hits), however you will rarely find anything more than 20-25 years old unless the selling auction house lists older provenance. Example: [URL]https://www.sullacoins.com/post/the-temple-on-mt-eryx[/URL] [ATTACH=full]1545128[/ATTACH] ACSearch helped me track down this coin to 1989: [ATTACH=full]1545129[/ATTACH] Here's funny story here of 5 previous owners found with image search (5 owners in about 30 months) [URL]https://www.sullacoins.com/post/who-s-bidding[/URL] [B]Specific Types: Die studies for your coin of interest [/B]are always a good place to look or for rarer coins the one reference article Example: [URL]https://www.sullacoins.com/post/ae-coin-from-ekkarra-achaea-phthiotis[/URL] [B]Image Searching: [/B]Having tried periodically [URL]http://ex-numis.com[/URL] with no luck, even coins that I know have old provenance haven't turned up anything, I still hold out hope that this will be the best way to search provenance in the future, as databases grow and image matching technology improves. [B]Post your coins with "restored provenance", or your favorite ways to add provenance, or anything else that you find interesting or entertaining.[/B][/QUOTE]
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