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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;The Penny Lady®, post: 701306, member: 16948&quot;]Doug is right in that copper often turns from red to red brown to brown, even if they were red at the time they were certified in the holder.&nbsp; And as far as the designations on these two coins, I agree both are technically &quot;brown&quot; but sometimes TPG&#039;s will sort of split the difference in grading especially when a coin has extra-ordinary luster and eye appeal.&nbsp; I&#039;ve seen them give a really pretty lustrous brown or bluish toned coin an MS64 RB designation even though that coin might technically grade MS65 BN and vice versa.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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