Message:

<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Curtis, post: 8252707, member: 26430&quot;]Oh, I&#039;ll definitely get in contact for comments when my draft is ready! <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Great questions and information! I always wondered if those &quot;V&quot; shapes on the Licnius (&amp; some Constantine) captives could be bindings from the waist to the shoulders/possibly neck, as in my little Theodosius AE4.</p><p><br /></p><p>I think the best way to figure them out is to compare to larger artworks, like bronze figurines, marble sculptures, and various pottery/ceramics:</p><p><br /></p><p>(Creative Commons fair use,<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bronze_Statuette_of_a_Suebi_captive.jpg" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bronze_Statuette_of_a_Suebi_captive.jpg" rel="nofollow"> from Wikipedia</a>, (Roman) Bronze Statuette of a Suebi Captive)</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1454331[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>(Not mine, <a href="https://www.ma-shops.com/harlanberk/item.php?id=5709" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.ma-shops.com/harlanberk/item.php?id=5709" rel="nofollow">photo credit: Harlan J Berk</a> -- even oil lamps were decorated with bound captives!)</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1454324[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>I love your Honorius example, both for the foot to the groin (just unnecessary cruelty for its own sake) -- and for the knee past the exergue line. Starting around Aurelian, I think, you start to see the emperor or deities like Sol &quot;spurning&quot; the captives. Sometimes it even looks like the exergue line goes over, say, an ankle, and Sol or emperor could be &quot;spurning&quot; them by pressing on the line (I forget the technical term, not quite a &quot;pillory&quot; but it could be one of those long poles that multiple prisoners are tied to).</p><p><br /></p><p>Thanks for sharing that table/list from RIC X too! I hadn&#039;t seen that yet. I&#039;m saving all these comments in my captives notes.</p><p><br /></p><p>Great Constans from Alexandria! I feel quite sure I recognize it and had it on a Watchlist in the last year or two... I&#039;m thinking, possibly Berk but probably the one from Martina Dieterle? If the latter, I think it may also have been illustrated in:</p><blockquote><p><font size="4">Kellner, Wendelin. 2009. <i>Die Münzstätte Alexandria in Ägypten. Von Kleopatra bis Arcadius</i>. Moneytrend Verlag Wien, 2009.</font></p></blockquote><p>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

Your name or email address:

Do you already have an account?

• No, create an account now.
• Yes, my password is:
• Forgot your password?

Stay logged in