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<p>[QUOTE="fiddlehead, post: 2641799, member: 31286"]Interesting point and I'm sure that the majority haven't been slabbed - however, would you deny that certification percentages aren't at a least a random sample of existence or availability? Or do you thing someone who is thinking about certification says, yeah, this is large date, I'll try to certify it, but this one is a small date so I won't bother? What else do we have to go by in terms of existence or rarity? Empirical evidence? Ok, there are about three times as many large date 1820 cents available on Ebay right now as small date - certified, not certified, ungradible or whatever. Think it's an aberration? Try completed listings. - or - on Collectors Corner right now, there are probably 10, maybe 15 large date 1820's listed. How many small dates? Zero!</p><p><br /></p><p>FWIW it seems really odd to me that people cling to something that is not backed statistically in any way - at least not so far - for whatever reason. I don't really care all that much, I may not even keep this coin and the rarity is irrelevant to why I like it - if I like it - but the issue of how people believe in rarity or not is really baffling! Somewhere, someone said this type of coin is an R-2 - the statistics I find don't back that up. It's just a fact so far - please - give me actual information that defends an 1820 N-7 small date is an R-2? Which according PCGS R ratings would mean there are many thousands of them in existence - or perhaps there is a special R rating system for old copper?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="fiddlehead, post: 2641799, member: 31286"]Interesting point and I'm sure that the majority haven't been slabbed - however, would you deny that certification percentages aren't at a least a random sample of existence or availability? Or do you thing someone who is thinking about certification says, yeah, this is large date, I'll try to certify it, but this one is a small date so I won't bother? What else do we have to go by in terms of existence or rarity? Empirical evidence? Ok, there are about three times as many large date 1820 cents available on Ebay right now as small date - certified, not certified, ungradible or whatever. Think it's an aberration? Try completed listings. - or - on Collectors Corner right now, there are probably 10, maybe 15 large date 1820's listed. How many small dates? Zero! FWIW it seems really odd to me that people cling to something that is not backed statistically in any way - at least not so far - for whatever reason. I don't really care all that much, I may not even keep this coin and the rarity is irrelevant to why I like it - if I like it - but the issue of how people believe in rarity or not is really baffling! Somewhere, someone said this type of coin is an R-2 - the statistics I find don't back that up. It's just a fact so far - please - give me actual information that defends an 1820 N-7 small date is an R-2? Which according PCGS R ratings would mean there are many thousands of them in existence - or perhaps there is a special R rating system for old copper?[/QUOTE]
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