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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;fiddlehead, post: 2641506, member: 31286&quot;]Further muddle.&nbsp; Ironically, PCGS estimates 2000 coins surviving and only 50 of those over ms60.&nbsp; Apparently this bears no relationship to the number of coins they have certified because:</p><p>Acccording to PCGS facts: </p><p><br /></p><p>large date coins: 605 of PCGS certified 1820 large date pennies are AU 55 or over. 559 are ms60 or over and only 89 are AU 53 or under! </p><p><br /></p><p>For the small date: 40 are AU55 or over,&nbsp; 27 of the 70 or so total are over ms60. </p><p>39 are 53 or under and 29 are 45 or under, which includes a few at the very bottom. So if you don&#039;t count the ms2 and 3&#039;s there are about as many XF or less as there are Mint state coins that have been certified.&nbsp; I suppose the inclination to certify higher grade coins is substantial for this sort of coin, but wow!&nbsp; That&#039;s the impact of the hoard.&nbsp; And there seems to be no doubt that the small date is far less common than the large date in general.&nbsp; BTW, at NGC, where I could find the number of n-7&#039;s that have been attributed - there are 7.&nbsp; So it&#039;s an R what?&nbsp; Certainly not an R2![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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