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<p>[QUOTE="TIF, post: 2079644, member: 56859"]Since I can't have [USER=44357]@AncientJoe[/USER]'s, this one will have to do <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]386526[/ATTACH]</p><p><font size="3"><b>SIKYONIA, Sikyon</b>, 335-330 BCE. AR stater, 23 mm, 12.3 gm. Chimera standing left; wreath above, ΣE below. Dove flying left; A to left; all within wreath. BCD Peloponnesos 220; Traité III 775, pl. CCXX, 11. CNG 342, <i>ex "collection of a Southern Pathologist, purchased from C.H. Wolfe, 3 May 1989"</i></font></p><p><br /></p><p>I've been hunting for the right one for a year now. Sure, I'd like it to have better details... but the the centering and toning are very nice and the price was right. I can live with this <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />.</p><p><br /></p><p>The serpent head on the chimera's tail isn't visible on this coin-- it's off the flan and this die doesn't have a very distinct serpent head anyway.</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.colosseocollection.com/p444364358/hef402e2#hef402e2" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.colosseocollection.com/p444364358/hef402e2#hef402e2" rel="nofollow">AJ's writeup</a> nicely summarizes the coin and politics. Here are some additional tidbits.</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Location: northern Peloponnesus, northwest of Corinth</b></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]386636[/ATTACH]</p><p><font size="3">Map from <a href="https://vismor.com/misc/atlas/classical_geography_butler/show_map.php?file=peloponnesus&title=Attica%20and%20the%20Peloponnese" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://vismor.com/misc/atlas/classical_geography_butler/show_map.php?file=peloponnesus&title=Attica%20and%20the%20Peloponnese" rel="nofollow">vismor.com</a></font></p><p><br /></p><p>I tried to make a <a href="http://www.tifcollection.com/#!coins-of-peloponnesus/c1b2d" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.tifcollection.com/#!coins-of-peloponnesus/c1b2d" rel="nofollow">somewhat interactive map</a> but couldn't load it here. On my website I have a page with this map and all of my coins from the area. The pictures are clickable.</p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b>What is a chimera?</b></p><p><br /></p><p>Mythical creature composed of several animals. This coin's chimera is a fire-breathing lion/goat/serpent. It is first mentioned in Homer's <i>Iliad</i> and origin myths are varied, as is often the case with such things. One hypothesis about the myth's origin is that it stemmed from the natural geologic feature of "burning rocks": metamorphic rock venting flaming methane. Located in Lycia (modern-day southwest Turkey), this is also the region where the chimera myth began.</p><p><img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f6/FiresChimera2.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Sighting a chimera was a bad omen. Fortunately I haven't seen any in my neighborhood this week, coins notwithstanding. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Side note: chimeras <b>do exist! </b>Animals (and humans!) can in certain circumstances can be conceived with or develop two different sets of DNA. Some male tortoiseshell cats exhibit this trait. Sure, it's not as cool as having a snake-tail or goat-back, but it's still pretty cool...unless you're Lydia Fairchild or Karen Keegan, whose children were almost taken away when initial DNA testing appeared to show they couldn't be the mothers of their children. When DNA was sampled from different tissue, the chimerism was found and crisis averted.</p><p><br /></p><p>...</p><p><br /></p><p>Post your chimeras, coins of Sikyon, or anything else you think works <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="TIF, post: 2079644, member: 56859"]Since I can't have [USER=44357]@AncientJoe[/USER]'s, this one will have to do :D [ATTACH=full]386526[/ATTACH] [SIZE=3][B]SIKYONIA, Sikyon[/B], 335-330 BCE. AR stater, 23 mm, 12.3 gm. Chimera standing left; wreath above, ΣE below. Dove flying left; A to left; all within wreath. BCD Peloponnesos 220; Traité III 775, pl. CCXX, 11. CNG 342, [I]ex "collection of a Southern Pathologist, purchased from C.H. Wolfe, 3 May 1989"[/I][/SIZE] I've been hunting for the right one for a year now. Sure, I'd like it to have better details... but the the centering and toning are very nice and the price was right. I can live with this :D. The serpent head on the chimera's tail isn't visible on this coin-- it's off the flan and this die doesn't have a very distinct serpent head anyway. [URL='http://www.colosseocollection.com/p444364358/hef402e2#hef402e2']AJ's writeup[/URL] nicely summarizes the coin and politics. Here are some additional tidbits. [B]Location: northern Peloponnesus, northwest of Corinth[/B] [ATTACH=full]386636[/ATTACH] [SIZE=3]Map from [URL='https://vismor.com/misc/atlas/classical_geography_butler/show_map.php?file=peloponnesus&title=Attica%20and%20the%20Peloponnese']vismor.com[/URL][/SIZE] I tried to make a [URL='http://www.tifcollection.com/#!coins-of-peloponnesus/c1b2d']somewhat interactive map[/URL] but couldn't load it here. On my website I have a page with this map and all of my coins from the area. The pictures are clickable. [B] What is a chimera?[/B] Mythical creature composed of several animals. This coin's chimera is a fire-breathing lion/goat/serpent. It is first mentioned in Homer's [I]Iliad[/I] and origin myths are varied, as is often the case with such things. One hypothesis about the myth's origin is that it stemmed from the natural geologic feature of "burning rocks": metamorphic rock venting flaming methane. Located in Lycia (modern-day southwest Turkey), this is also the region where the chimera myth began. [IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f6/FiresChimera2.jpg[/IMG] Sighting a chimera was a bad omen. Fortunately I haven't seen any in my neighborhood this week, coins notwithstanding. :D Side note: chimeras [B]do exist! [/B]Animals (and humans!) can in certain circumstances can be conceived with or develop two different sets of DNA. Some male tortoiseshell cats exhibit this trait. Sure, it's not as cool as having a snake-tail or goat-back, but it's still pretty cool...unless you're Lydia Fairchild or Karen Keegan, whose children were almost taken away when initial DNA testing appeared to show they couldn't be the mothers of their children. When DNA was sampled from different tissue, the chimerism was found and crisis averted. ... Post your chimeras, coins of Sikyon, or anything else you think works :)[/QUOTE]
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