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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;dougsmit, post: 2488597, member: 19463&quot;]We may have a terminology problem here.&nbsp; I do not consider ancient copies, limes or fourrees to be forgeries whether or not they were intended to fool people or to serve as monies of necessity.&nbsp; However, the coin in question does not convince me that it is more than a hundred years old.&nbsp; That is a major problem with collecting unofficial issues.&nbsp; There will be some that are certainly not official but we just can not be sure whether they were made then or now.&nbsp; Currently there are quite a few non-official Roman Republicans in the market and some of them may very well be products of border people or ancient criminals whose appeal has been increased by a couple thousand years.&nbsp; I have a few &#039;wild&#039; Septimius coins that I believe are most certainly ancient but explaining why and proving my feelings are not comfortable subjects for me.&nbsp; For example, I would love to think that the coins below are ancient even though they are most certainly not official however, my more realistic thoughts tend to make them things made to fool collectors 50 to 300 years ago and, therefore, &#039;modern&#039; fakes rather than limes lefties. The kiss of death is their being off center in a matching way.&nbsp; I bought the top one from NFA (sale XXXIII lot 1604).&nbsp; Who would have thought they were crooks?</p><p>[ATTACH=full]526318[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]526319[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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