Finally! 1964-D Peace Dollar (or, at least, the master die)

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  1. Long Beard

    Long Beard Well-Known Member

    The mintage in question, irregardless of which is correct, occurred over two weeks in May of 1965. During which time mint employees were permitted to exchange dollar for dollar to acquire them. When the order came down cancelling the release into general circulation and the employees ordered to return them, I find it highly unlikely that all of them had been. Proof of such, their existence after the supposed complete mintage destruction, two were found in a mint vault in 1970 during a routine audit and likewise destroyed. So there are two recorded to have survived. Add in the mystery behind Director Ava Adams, her personal collection containing a 1964 Special Mint Set, among other things, which also "never existed". Really? Stacks and Bowers cataloged and auction off one in the 1970's. What else did she have in her personal collection?

    It seems as though the government picks and choses which non-issued coins they go after. What about all of those patterns and trial strikes over many decades? After all, these were not monetized. Yet hundreds are allowed to exist in personal collections. Does that not constitute a non-issue, which they are surly to claim if or when other 1964d Peace Dollars come to light from private collections. Not to mention theft, which was claimed against the owners of the1933 Double-Eagles. For these reasons it will be years before we see any genuine survivors.
     
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  3. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    JUST the 1964 D Peace dollar. It isn’t a fantasy piece. It is an altered coin resembling a coin that actually existed but is being sold with full disclosure as to what it is. The rest are fantasies by definition. All of his products are technically legal.

    Those who claim Carr’s activities are illegal have never substantiated their claims with the law, even when given links to it. That tells me everything I need to know.
     
  4. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    While I agree that real world have overruled many hypothetical claims that is definitely throwing a grenade into the room lol
     
  5. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I actually have posted links to case law where others, who did the same thing he does with the '64 Peace, were successfully sued for counterfeiting, and forced to stop doing it.

    It's all in the old threads about this subject, go look 'em up if ya want.
     
  6. Hookman

    Hookman Well-Known Member

    Ya reckon he's got that much juice, or you reckon he's spreading' some NOTGELD around, or what?

    My dog, as they say, is not in this hunt.
    Jes' curious.
     
  7. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    He probably should have made the date 1963-D or 1965-D.
    Because now, anytime someone pops up with the "Rare 1964-D" it's
    going to be one of his pieces.
    If he doesn't, he should probably identify his pieces with a tiny DC hidden somewhere in the design. The experts would know exactly where to look and it could avoid any confusion about authenticity.
     
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  8. Hookman

    Hookman Well-Known Member


    WoW, You know what ?

    That makes too much sense........so that just can not be done !!
     
  9. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    He is referring to the Langfords and the 33 DE, and the gentleman who had the 74 D aluminum cent who eventually got tired of fighting and surrendered it to the government. (Even though the government said it was theirs and requested its return, they never actually sent anyone around to try and confiscate it.) As of the 1974 P aluminum cent they have never made any overt efforts to recover it.
     
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  10. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    He deliberately created die markers in each of his dies and has them extensively published. There would be no confusion.
     
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  11. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    Did they create the 1964 D Peace Dollars, or this they overstrike them over genuine Peace Dollars? There is a huge difference. The former is against the law, while the latter is technically legal.
     
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  12. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    But it is done. See above.
     
  13. Hookman

    Hookman Well-Known Member

    Sarcasm and facetiousness. A rare combination.....or is it?
     
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