Finally! 1964-D Peace Dollar (or, at least, the master die)

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  1. QuintupleSovereign

    QuintupleSovereign Well-Known Member

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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 Let me burst your bubble! Supporter

    How about a Fantasy Issue?
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    :rolleyes:.....

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  4. LakeEffect

    LakeEffect Average Circulated

    Actually the article claims coins were minted in Denver, even though the obverse die in question now resides in Philly.

    322,394 to be exact. Hard to believe not a single one survived, although I suppose one would have surfaced by now if any were still out there.
     
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  5. baseball21

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  6. thomas mozzillo

    thomas mozzillo Well-Known Member

    I read the article in Coin World and it piqued my curiosity. If the US Mint produced 1964 D Peace Dollars, why isn't Carr's fantasy 64 D Dollar considered a counterfeit?
    It is an imitation of a legally minted US coin, even if all were supposedly destroyed. @paddyman98 , Is that why you posted the can of worms?
     
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  7. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    How can you counterfeit something the maker claims doesn't exist?
     
  8. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    What 1964-D Peace Dollars are you talking about? The Mint says they destroyed them all. Just like the 12,000 business strike 1895 Morgan Dollars.
     
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  9. CoinCorgi

    CoinCorgi Derp, derp, derp!

    The article cites 2 mintages. Which is it?

    In total, 316,076 Peace dollars bearing the 1964 date were struck, at the Denver Mint only, and bearing the D Mint mark on the reverse.

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    Researcher Roger W. Burdette, in A Guide Book of Peace Dollars, states that 322,394 Peace dollars dated 1964-D were struck at the Denver Mint between May 13 and May 24, 1965.
     
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  10. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    They ARE considered counterfeits by a whole lot of people ! Me among them.

    Very easily is how. The fact that they did exist at one time means they can be counterfeited.

    There, now that can is all the way open ;)
     
  11. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    I am also only familiar with the 316,000 mintage.
    So which is correct?
     
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  12. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random nobody who doesn’t know anything...

    Precisely!
     
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  13. HAB Peace 28 2.0

    HAB Peace 28 2.0 Je ne me soucie plus vraiment

    I had a very honest person, who attended Penn State in the 70s; tell me that he knew a guy who had one. Of course, I’ve always been kind of skeptical of this claim? But hey, with this being discovered in PA. Who knows? I’d sure as l’enfer like to find one :greedy:.
     
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  14. Rassi

    Rassi #GoCubs #FlyTheW #WeAreGood

    Since the die in Philly is a master die, would they have made the working dies there and then sent them to Denver for the dollars that were minted??? Or would Denver have made their own working dies?
     
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  15. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Ocean's 11 (remake):
    "You know a guy."
     
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  16. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Yes, Philadelphia would have made both the working hubs AND the working dies that were shipped to Denver. Until 1997 Philadelphia made ALL of the Hubs and ALL the dies used at all the mints. 1997 and later Denver made their own dies from a master die supplied by Philadelphia. Philadelphia still makes the dies for San Francisco and West Point.

    I think the reason Denver was used to strike the 1964 D coins was because Philadelphia was kind of in transition at the time between the third mint and the fourth mint that opened in 1969.
     
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  17. louis a bencze

    louis a bencze Active Member

    How long was it before the Langfords came forward with their 1933 gold pieces? Just saying. It could happen.
     
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  18. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    It could but after what happened to them and the aluminum cent you'd have to almost be insane to think they wouldn't be taken away
     
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  19. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    The last time I looked at this. There were one found, and hardly a thought that the director gave two way. This feels like a set up. Not very cool IMO.:cool:

    This whole premise? I don't hold anything back against @dcarr His coins are fantasy and if anything we should be giving him a pat on the shoulder. These coins already identified by die markers will never be constituted for the real thing nd why we study coins.
     
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  20. Hookman

    Hookman Well-Known Member

    And the 1913 nickel that at first was claimed to be a fake, but was eventually declared "real" ? and just who was in on that investigation?

    Our very own Fred Weinberg.

    Follow the link and scroll down for the reference.

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  21. Hookman

    Hookman Well-Known Member

    and just what did happen to them and the aluminum cent?
     
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