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<p>[QUOTE="Andy, post: 4620, member: 645"]FDR had alot of faults but he was a president in a time when Hitlers,Stalins,and Tojo's where actually attempting to kill everyone else in a power grab, and FDR stood up with the great Winston C. and destoryed most of that evil and contained the rest.</p><p>I agree with Douglas that FDR did avoid opening a second front to relieve the Russians to let the Russians bleed. Why else invade Sicliy and Italy which pretty much gave up fighting and was really occupied at that stage. Let the Russians bleed so thier ground forces won't march to the Atlantic. The containment worked. It took a few generations but it worked without costing millions upon millions of lives. I know Stalin was nothing more then a Georgian bank robber gangster who couldn't cut it in Priest School and it would have been nice to have him taken out. But at what cost? The people of Russia and their captured nation states never really bought the party line,so it only was a matter of time and I was glad to see the fall of Sovietism in Moscow in person. FDR did embrace aspects of Socialism but what is wrong with providing Social Security to our old, having restrictions on how long a person could work with out having a break, with building highways, dams and planting forests with work programs. FDR had his faults and he was President for to long but he did stand up even if he was in a wheelchair. It was others after him that destoryed his programs. Lets keep him on the dime. As for Lincoln, Could that war ever been avoided. Sooner or later their would have been conflict over expansion and trade for I have read that the south was planning on ending slavery themselves due to demographics and the danger that presented. Besides sharecroppers are cheaper and the northern factory owners showed how emigrants could be used. Now I agree that the people are fading from the process of government and are at times actually being governed by special interests here and from overseas. Do you have any idea how much middle eastern oil money is spent in this country for unAmerican reasons. But what can I say when I live in a state where half the people don't vote and half of those who do, don't know how to. It could happen again down here. I might be rambling but what I really want to say is let's have a movement to put Ali Landry on a coin.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Andy, post: 4620, member: 645"]FDR had alot of faults but he was a president in a time when Hitlers,Stalins,and Tojo's where actually attempting to kill everyone else in a power grab, and FDR stood up with the great Winston C. and destoryed most of that evil and contained the rest. I agree with Douglas that FDR did avoid opening a second front to relieve the Russians to let the Russians bleed. Why else invade Sicliy and Italy which pretty much gave up fighting and was really occupied at that stage. Let the Russians bleed so thier ground forces won't march to the Atlantic. The containment worked. It took a few generations but it worked without costing millions upon millions of lives. I know Stalin was nothing more then a Georgian bank robber gangster who couldn't cut it in Priest School and it would have been nice to have him taken out. But at what cost? The people of Russia and their captured nation states never really bought the party line,so it only was a matter of time and I was glad to see the fall of Sovietism in Moscow in person. FDR did embrace aspects of Socialism but what is wrong with providing Social Security to our old, having restrictions on how long a person could work with out having a break, with building highways, dams and planting forests with work programs. FDR had his faults and he was President for to long but he did stand up even if he was in a wheelchair. It was others after him that destoryed his programs. Lets keep him on the dime. As for Lincoln, Could that war ever been avoided. Sooner or later their would have been conflict over expansion and trade for I have read that the south was planning on ending slavery themselves due to demographics and the danger that presented. Besides sharecroppers are cheaper and the northern factory owners showed how emigrants could be used. Now I agree that the people are fading from the process of government and are at times actually being governed by special interests here and from overseas. Do you have any idea how much middle eastern oil money is spent in this country for unAmerican reasons. But what can I say when I live in a state where half the people don't vote and half of those who do, don't know how to. It could happen again down here. I might be rambling but what I really want to say is let's have a movement to put Ali Landry on a coin.[/QUOTE]
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